IMO walkways for sinks, ranges 48" and in front of fridge 54-60" You need to post a to scale plan nothing in it but some clue as to island size you want. Do on graph paper show every window , doorways and where those lead . Do you want seating at the island?

What size is the fridge? How many seats t the dr table ? Too little info for real help so post the plan here in jpeg format in a comment do not start another post/

island will likely be a little over 8 feet long, yes- we'll place some chairs on the island but will rarely sit there. The dining area has a patio right next to it. The fridge is about 42 inches. Dining area will be a round table, with seating for about 4-6 people. It's a large kitchen. I'm not good at scaling and drawing, but wanted to know if the sink by the window is good, or if I should relocate it to the island.

Scaled drawings are easy done on graph paper you took the measurements so just trnsfer those using one square = 6" on the paper . Really the only way to get good design for a kitchen. You have big kitchen and a tiny dining table I assume another DR somehwere else . There are issues with the plan you have so why not try to do the drawing then you get awesome help from pros for free.

Make a scaled sketch on graph paper as suggested by Patricia or use a ruler (1/4" = 1').

You will not receive the help you'd like unless you take a little time to make the sketch. There are talented people on here who are happy to provide you with free advice/suggestions/layouts if you provide the sketch.

Take advantage of the talent on Houzz - make a quick sketch! 😘

You do a simple version of this:

You don't need the computer, graph paper and sharp bold pencil will work.

Note? EVERY single dimension of every single aspect of the CURRENT condition of your kitchen. Solid walls, windows, openings and where they lead.

Pictures uploaded as jepegs, for this and the actual space you have.

I know it is difficult for some people to draw their space, especially when they have never done it before, but we really do need some additional information

I have drawn out your plan on a graph with each square being 1 foot

Can you measure the length of each wall like I numbered on the outside of the picture

and tell us or mark on the picture what the actual wall lengths are?

Then tell us

if the sliding glass door is in the right place and the right size (width).

if the window is in the right place and is the right size (width)

Now tell us about the other 3 walls - do you have doorways or windows and if so where.

I just guessed that there is a door to the garage off the kitchen and that the dining room is open to the living room because this is pretty common.

With this information we can draw something out for you and help you know what works and doesn't work in the space.

Without the basic information we can't tell you much else.

thank you so much! Let me do some measurements and get back to you all. i appreciate everyones help.

The slider door is vertical and to the left of the dining table and the door is 6 feet wide. The other window is just above the slider door (vertical number 2-3) at 34 in width. It is an open concept living room. Also, it is 9 ft from end of island to the left wall (sliding door/dining), 25 feet across the entire kicthen. The garage is not there, there is a hallway before approaching the kitchen from the garage. There is a pantry door that runs sideways to the fridge. If you draw a line between 12 and 22, that is a pantry. Then next to the pantry is a 40 in cabinet space which is where the kitchen ends (open concept).

Okay, I think I have this right based on your drawing and your comments:

Any suggestions for this kitchen? 8 ft vs 9 ft island? anything you suggest to be moved? are the double oven and fridge in a good location? or should it be switched?

How about a do over?

You want a PLAN? We do not need "your island"

We need your exact space within the walls. The exact placement of each door and window. How much solid wall precedes the window, how much AFTER THE WINDOW? Where do you enter? What opening and where gets you into the kitchen from a garage?

EVERY SINGLE SOLID WALL AND OPENING

EACH has a dimension, and we're not counting squares: )

I have a couple of question and concerns

First question - How far from the left edge of the counter to the window over the sink?

Second question - what is the depth of the kitchen from cabinets next to pantry to the wall where the stove is placed

(See red arrows below for measurements 1 & 2)

Third question - Are you thinking about an additional 1' overhang at the end of the 8' island? My answer to that would be a hard no.

Forth question - How wide is the fridge? I thought I had read 48" fridge but now I am not seeing that remark.

Fourth question - Do I have the pantry door right? Is it cornered to the wall (like my drawing) or to the end of the counter 2' in from the wall like this picture?

Concerns: The island size and placement.

Dining areas need to be a minimum of 10' to allow for a 48" wide table (4' wide +3' on each side for people to get in and out of their seats.) You have a large enough kitchen without encroaching on that space.

Islands don't need to be massive. Bigger isn't always better.

The only reason I would design a kitchen with a 48" deep island is when you have back to back cabinets underneath the island. You need a 15" overhang for counter depth seating + the 24" for a single row of cabinets + 1' overhang on the front over the cabinets. 40" depth is perfect.

Would this work? In my opinion, yes it is doable. But there may be ways to improve the design.

I might flip the orientation

First question - It is 24 inches, I'll have to get the measurements for the second one but it is 12 feet from wall to pantry door.

3rd. question - I wasn’t thinking of an overhang, more or deciding between an 8 ft vs 8.5 feet or 9 ft island size.

Fridge is 42 inches.

4. Yes- pantry door is cornered like the picture. There is about a 2 in space with the wall.

For dining area- we can do a smaller table.

I would rethink the 42" fridge. Lots more options with the standard 36" or 48".

I have a SZ 42" french door fridge and would have gone with the 48" if it had been offered at that time. It came out a year after we built. For me, a side-by-side 42" is awful, with both compartments being too narrow.

Good point about the fridge, good suggestion!

The FIRST thing to go here? The most dated thing!

The corner pantry! A big remodel to keep that from the nineties? Spec builder style??

Can you please just clarify every bit of all, and window as this?

There is no "about 2 Inches" anything in a kitchen.

You are WASTING opportunity here : ) for concrete help.

Add the pictures as well.!!!

What is your budget for changes? Your ideas and selections imply that this is an upscale 150K+ to +++ project—-resulting in narrow cramped aisles and overstuffed with cabinets like Thanksgiving bird.

16 feet for vertical space between wall to wall, the top left is 8.5 feet, so total is 24 feet from left to right.

the left side where you wrote "whole wall" spans all the way to the living room, with windows. It is very long.

"It is very looooong"

You may be new to Houzz ? I think you must be, as you've no idea how much you are probably missing with great input on the kitchen we can not see, and you could be one of the few left with a flip phone and no camera.

Houzz is probably the only site on the planet, where the combined hundreds of years of experience from pro and non comes at a cost of not one red cent.

"16 feet for vertical ( edit linear ) space between wall to wall, the top left is 8.5 feet, so total is 24 feet from left to right."

And where exactly is the potential sink window on the linear 24' wall? Where exactly is the patio door on the "very long" wall that blends into the living room?

"Then next to the pantry is a 40 in cabinet space, which is where the kitchen ends"

Do we know for fact it must END there?

The point of the measure, the pictures is but one - to help you. It's important to you or it is not. All of the information and full context allows us, ANY of us to see a possibility for better, that you may not be seeing. If you had a pro K.D, in your home, what would the pro see? Answer? The entire space.

I would encourage you to see what you might be missing, ( link ) and will turn you over to whomever is still paying attention : ) Jennifer, Chispa etc.

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6359906/option-1-or-option-2-for-kitchen-layout

Use some of that 150K+ budget needed to do this to hire someone with a tape measure and the 4th grade ability to measure things with it. You need actual paid professional kitchen design help to even start this. You need that large budget first of all, or all of this is just useless dreaming. What you will end up with, if you do what you are asking, is the out of scale overly large, overdone, 150K kitchen, in a 400K house. Not the best idea from either a money standpoint, or a functionality one.

Getting fixated on an 8' island is just weird. Especially since you don't have room for it, or a whole lot more things you seem to be dreaming about. Reality based design starts with measurements and funds. https://youtu.be/L5ah8kj3NiQ?si=rh5sy8lbFzOVa7P5

I would not go larger than 8' island and if it were my space I would probably go a bit smaller and have wider aisleways.

I guess one of the first questions that need to be answered are

How many people do you want to seat at the island at one time? and

How many people will you need to seat at the dining table.

I saw your comment that you may go with a smaller table in the dining area. The size I picked was 48".. That will seat 4 comfortably. You can squeeze 6 people around the table if you don't mind knocking elbows and knees but it will be really tight. You won't be able to push 6 chairs under a 48" table.

It is so normal to feel like a space can fit so much more than it can actually fit and function well.

You have a pretty decent size for the kitchen, not massive, but bigger than many. It doesn't mean you should over fill the space. It will not look good or function well if you aren't careful.

I would probably also think twice about double ovens. Do you really need two ovens? Most homes function really well with a range (Oven under the stove and the overall cost is far less.

More people are using a variety of small appliances to make their meals and more countertop space is needed. Few people really need 2 ovens and generally the second oven is never used.

Do you have two ovens now? Do you use the 2nd oven more than once a year? If not, how often have you found yourself where you struggled to prepare a meal because you needed more oven space?

Figuring out what you need rather than what is popular is a better way to design your space.