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Hello Pumpkin....

5 months ago
last modified: 5 months ago

Anyone have pumpkin growing experience? I have never grown pumpkins because while i like them, in cooking i find it easier to just use the canned, unless i want it roasted. There is just no way I could eat as many pumpkins as a healthy and happy vine will produce.

However, since the tragic demise of all my rose bushes at my work garden, I thought it would be fun to grow pumpkins in that space, and then by the time Halloween comes around, everyone that wants to carve pumpkins with their kids can just pick one of my pumpkins. Decoration and a craft all in one! I can't replant roses in the same place for awhile, due to the nature of the disease that killed them, and I just thought it would be a bright spot to the tragedy.

I ordered black kat, polar bear, and regular jack o lantern pumpkin seeds. I like a variety of everything.

Is it better to direct sow them? I hope not. Ever since my beloved gave me my fabulous greenhouse I am looking for any excuse to be in it starting seeds and such. I will be starting mum seeds in the next couple of weeks. Hopefully those will be a success and I will have big beautiful mum plants by the fall to give away! I may start some in trays and direct sow a couple, just to see.

I will be starting some in trays anyway. My sister works at an elementary school with the special needs kids. She is arranging a project where they plant pumpkins and then watch them grow. She is trying to start a permanant gardening program there and this is the first go at it. The idea is let the kids plant them, and then as backup, I will have pumpkin plants started in case some of the kids seeds do not germinate, and my sister will sneak and switch them out with the ones I have. I will be planting just regular orange jack o lantern ones for that project. Or maybe I will do the little baby pumpkins. Whatever she wants. I think its a great idea and something I would have been thrilled to do when in elementray school. tHe kids, btw, will not be told what they are planting. So it will be like a surprise just in time for Halloween.

But for my own purpose, I wonder, direct sow or start in trays and transplant? Do they like a certain fertilizer? What pests should I look out for and are their companion plants that would help? How many pumpkins will grow on the average vine? I want enough but not an extreme excess, I don't want any to go to waste. It is unlikely, given the amount of people that work there not to mention the couple hundred truck drivers that pass through each day. But I also do not want them to grow out of control beyond the designated garden space. Maybe I should just plant one or two of each type and make it first come first serve.

Tell me your pumpkin magic. So that I may grow magic pumpkins.

Comments (19)

  • 5 months ago

    I bought seeds for those super giant pumpkins a few years ago. That went about as far as most of my plantings: The seeds arrived in the mail.

    So, that wasn’t helpful but I think it’d be fun to plant at work.

    amylou321 thanked foodonastump
  • 5 months ago

    In my case, some critter dropped a seed or two in my front garden bed. It was fun to watch them grow. I did nothing to help them. They didn't grow too big, just big enough to be cute. Basically I let nature take it's course.




    The picture of this little fellow that grew into the one below was taken August 31, 2021

    This last picture was from September 11, 2021


    Have fun with your pumpkin patch and it's so nice that you are sharing them.

    amylou321 thanked murraysmom Zone 6a OH
  • 5 months ago

    Lots of water. It's water that'll make the grow big and fat.


    Lots of room. The vines will spread like crazy.

    amylou321 thanked Annie Deighnaugh
  • 5 months ago

    My only experience growing pumpkins is when, after Halloween, I cut up and buried the scraped-out jack-o-lanterns in the perennial garden, thinking they would just decompose there. Then forgot all about them. The next summer, I was surprised to see some beautiful, brilliant, bright orange flowers, then little pumpkins! I didn’t see the vines starting because they were hiding under the grasses and other perrenials. Apparently I didn’t scrape them out as well as I thought.

    amylou321 thanked bpath
  • 5 months ago

    What a cool idea! We don't have canned pumpkin here so I cook my own for pies etc. It's very easy! Halve the pumpkin, scrape out the seeds and brush the cut surface with a little oil. Place cut face down on an oiled try and bake in the oven until you can run a skewer all the way through it. Then you just scoop the soft cooked pumpkin out of the skin and use it for whatever.

    I make pies, scones and soup mostly. Pumpkin soup is yummy. I often make a variation with a bit of curry powder and coconut milk. We also like roasted chunks of pumpkin as a side dish, especially with a roast of whatever meat. You don't need to peel it, just lightly oil and roast on a tray alongside the roasting meat. It's especially good drizzled with a sauce made of half miso and half maple syrup.

    amylou321 thanked colleenoz
  • 5 months ago

    I grow pumpkins every year. They transplant fine, though I prefer to direct sow. They are sensitive to low temperature swings.

    Mine get aged manure or whatever fertilizer I have around. Consistent water is important. For the kids, Jill be Little or Jack be Little are easy small pumpkins. Another one is ”Toad” a cute softball sized fruit with warts and sets a lot of fruits. There are also bush varieties that take up less space.

    Squash beetles and aphids are typical pests. Smaller types generally set more fruits. Carving pumpkins usually set 2-3.

    You can’t get much better for companion plants than the three sisters method, corn, beans and pumpkins.

    For pumpkin magic - when the fruit is firm and changing color, take a pushpin and scratch-write the kids name on the pumpkin. Just break the outer skin. The rind will scar over with the name. little ones get really excited to find ”their” pumpkin magically growing in the patch. If you do this too early the pumpkin will rot from injury. if too late it won't scar in time. Examine the pumpkin they usually get some growing nicks and scrapes and when you see those healing it’s ready to write on.

    amylou321 thanked HighDesert Now Z 6b was 7a
  • 5 months ago
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    I already have a giant pumpkin vine nd I have no idea what I’m doing.

    One year I ordered seeds and ge good intentions, but forgot to plant them when it was time (I think roughly June in our area, Amylou). Then last year DH got some leftover pumpkins to feed the deer that pass thru our woods. He brought back about a dozen of all shapes and sizes from our Botanical Garden right after Halloween. They always get rid of them in a big compost pile or people will take some home after they are finished with their fall decor.

    He would open 1 or 2 at a time and the deer would have the pieces scattered all over our back 40. We would throw away the rinds when they were finished. Apparently we missed one and a vine started growing several weeks ago. It might be about to take over the compost bin and is headed for the house! 😱 LOADS of blooms but many were males until recently so I’m still looking for any fruit it has set. I’m pretty sure some squash vine borers or squash bugs or the deer will eventually find them and we may not have any pumpkins. It’s been fun to watch but the space it is taking up blows my mind. We may have some giant jack-o-lantern pumpkins, some Cinderella pumpkins, or some cute smaller ones. Who knows?

    amylou321 thanked OutsidePlaying
  • 5 months ago

    What a wonderful idea! That’s making lemonade from the lemons, for sure. I’ve grown pumpkins in the past but it was so many years ago, I can’t be of any help.

    amylou321 thanked olychick
  • 5 months ago
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    The foliage is really large leaves, and they cover bare ground very quickly, in a beautiful way. And because it's a squash, the flowers are pretty. You've chosen well.

    amylou321 thanked rob333 (zone 7b)
  • 5 months ago

    Where you live matters. Here I would direct sew them now--or buy starters but now is when they need to be in the ground if I were to have hope of having orange pumpkins by October. Warmer places start them later I heard.

    amylou321 thanked arcy_gw
  • 5 months ago

    Here in zone 6B the seed should be in the ground by now and they should be up and growing.

    amylou321 thanked laceyvail 6A, WV
  • 5 months ago

    Outside Playing, my volunteer pumpkin actually grew up the steps and onto my front porch!!! Very exciting to see. Your comment made me laugh.

    amylou321 thanked murraysmom Zone 6a OH
  • 5 months ago

    Many moons ago I grew a white pumpkin variety and got about 6 large white pumpkins at the end of the season. The thing I liked most was their large showy yellow blooms. Bees loved them. I cut lots of male blooms just before they would open to use in soup and stir fry. Those blooms were a tasty treat.

    amylou321 thanked palisades_
  • 5 months ago

    I've grown pumpkins twice, the vines can grow up to 50 ft in all directions so they need a lot of space. Plus they have multiple pest issues with squash bugs, cuke beetles, and the over night vine killer > Squash Vine Borers.

    amylou321 thanked vgkg Z-7 Va
  • 5 months ago

    As others state, the vines spread wide and far. I have done both in past years - seeds or transplants from the local greenhouse. Also volunteer plants from October's Halloween pumpkins thrown in the compost or dirt heap. Trouble is, I can't mow that area where the vines are until late Sept or Oct.

    amylou321 thanked schoolhouse_gw
  • 5 months ago

    since you are getting a late start presprout the seeds. lay out a damp paper towel, put your seeds on in a row fold over several times and put in a ziplock. Check frequently and you will see the white root break out of the pointy end. Then stick them in the ground and stand back. Any old fertilizer will do and yes plenty of water. How many depends on the variety. If you want bigger pumpkins keep the first one and pick off any future sets.

    amylou321 thanked Patriciae
  • 5 months ago
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    You can trellis pumpkins/winter squash if the fruits aren't too large, which might help with the space issue, since they do sprawl. People make a sling to support the fruit. Black Kat looks like it's on the small side.

    And I always had better results with direct sowing. The traditional method is to create a hill and plant 3-4 seeds in the center, then thin, if desired. I did the opposite here in our very sandy soil and made a depression to catch more water, and mulched very heavily with old hay. If you want to transplant (which I did because many pests will destroy the sprouts here) , use single pots so as not to disturb the roots very much - if using peat or paper pots, cut the sides before planting. They are nutrient hungry plants, BTW and love compost/manure. They will root along the vines where they touch the ground, and that helps make the plants stronger, IMPE.

    Some varieties are more pest & disease resistant than others. Mulching helps with disease and some pest prevention. You can prune back the vines if you're not trying to maximize fruit production. I occasionally used to pinch off the growing tips to keep vines in check.

    One place you can look for tips specific to your area is your local AG extension service - they're usually online.

    P.S. Working lots of compost deep into the soil before planting will help ensure stronger plants. I used to buy rabbit alfalfa pellets and work/water those into the hole too.

    amylou321 thanked carolb_w_fl_coastal_9/10
  • yesterday

    That's it. I give up. I AM DONE.


    Well, probably not, but I am gutted once again.


    The pumpkins actually did ok. I ended up with 9 Jack-O-Lantern pumpkins. Thet were smaller than I expected and would have liked, but who cares. They grew.


    The Black Kats had to be removed fairly early in my experiment. They had gnarly, distorted new growth so I dug it up, fearing a viral infection like the one that killed my poor roses.


    The shining star turned out to be the Polar Bear Pumpkins. I have 3 very large ones. I picked all the jack o lanterns and removed the vines earlier this week. While I was doing so, no less than 6 co workers came around and BEGGED me not to pick the white ones yet, as they all wanted to see how big they get. I agreed. The biggest one I have so fars measures 47 inches around. the other 2 are 37 inches around.


    Anyway, to the last straw(s). I removed the jack vines because I was absolutley fed up with the aphids. I have never seen such a severe infestation. I tried EVERYTHING to control them. They just got worse. A shame really, It was such a pleasant novelty to everyone who saw them to behold pumpkin vines basically in the middle of a desolate parking lot. But, there was no point anymore. The aphids destroyed them, so they had to go. I kept the pumpkins and incorporated them into my Thanksgiving decor. They were not ready in time for carving for Halloween. I felt ok, if a little annoyed about it. The aphids did not touch the polar bears at all. So I was feeling good. Until last night. I went to water them. While doing so, I noticed some of the roots were exposed a little, and something caught my attention. I remember exclaiming, "no no No No NO NO NO!" And then I furiously started digging with my bare hands in the forlorn hope that I was imagining things. But no, disaster. How in the world, in the middle of a parking lot, in a raised brick bed, did ROOT KNOT NEMATODES invade my pumpkins?!?!?!? I am having the absolute worst luck this year. Pests and Disease have run rampant, way more than usual. And I am so over it. I just turned the water off and went back inside. I guess I will just wait until the vines die back to harvest the seeds from the pumpkins for people who have asked for them. I am not planning to plant anything else. But I am going to kill the nematodes, just out of spite.