Problems connecting with HelpMeFind through a normal Google search?

comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

4 days ago

last modified: 4 days ago

If so, here's what Google's AI told me (this was a summary it offered me of a longer conversation, to share with others):

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Subject: Tip for searching HelpMeFind when Google/AI keeps blocking you

Hi everyone,

If you’ve noticed that Google searches or new AI search tools are making it incredibly annoying to find direct links to HelpMeFind rose pages lately, you aren’t alone. Because of back-end updates to both HelpMeFind and search engine algorithms, searches often spit out paragraphs of text or generic homepages instead of the actual deep-database link.

To completely bypass the AI summaries and force Google to act like an old-school phone book, just use the site: operator in your search bar.

Type this directly into your Google search bar:
site:helpmefind.com "Rose Name"

(For example: site:helpmefind.com "Madame Alfred Carriere")

This forces Google to skip the conversational fluff and immediately brings the exact HelpMeFind database entry right to the top of your results. Hope this saves some of you a bit of time and frustration!

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So there you have it - hope it helps anyone who may have been struggling, like me. Another example of AI making things worse rather than better, IMO, although I have to concede that the score isn't always one way. This is annoying but I suppose I'll get used to it, if I can remember the magic formula to trick AI into shutting up!

:-D

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mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)

4 days ago

You can also change your search engine to something besides Google. Duckduckgo isn't nearly as bad about AI as Google.

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Comments (8)

Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
4 days ago
Thank you so much. Help me find themselves have made it difficult to search the rose site
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asjad492
4 days ago
Thank you for sharing this, I have run into the same thing lately and ended up scrolling through pages of summaries instead of finding the actual rose page. I tried the search trick this morning and it worked straight away for a couple of varieties I was checking. I agree with Vaporvac too, it does feel like the site itself has become harder to search, so this little workaround is really handy to keep in mind.
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bartisback
4 days ago
I've been having problems with HMF, too-I can't post comments. I'm going to try using this Brave instead of Mozilla. I wish AI would shut up, too. IME, it should be ONLY used for serious scientific things. I wish some hi-tech genius would come up with an anti-AI filter that we could use to filter out all frivolous AI things...
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roseseek
4 days ago
I use Firefox and the only issues I've had with HMF have been due to bot attacks trying to interrupt service on the site. If you're encountering issues with HMF, the help address is Support@helpmefind.com to report the problems. Including time, browser, phone or computer and precise error message or issues encountered will help them diagnose and fix the issues.
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Rosefolly z5
yesterday
last modified: yesterday
I use DuckDuckGo and have no problem connecting to HelpMeFind. Of course I have a bookmark to it. Don't all rose growers ?
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susan9santabarbara
17 hours ago
I have HMF bookmarked on my laptop and they always recognize me as a member. But sometimes I'm sitting in my comfy chair in the living room working on a project and want to look up a rose on my phone without dragging out my laptop. For example, I Google "rose tiffany helpmefind" and it always comes up and takes me directly to its HMF page. I did this just yesterday morning. I can't read the non-member content, but usually it's enough for what I need at the moment.
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
2 minutes ago
I was googling some roses and placed a hmf after them. Usually this pulls up help me find and the rose variety. It didnt work. I had to go to the help me find website and then put the rose into the search bar on that site. Kinda weird that it is doing that now after all these years of success with the other way lol. It is doable but adds an extra step.