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Ceiling Texture or flat? - Just removed the popcorn ceiling

12 years ago
I just removed popcorn ceiling from my kitchen/ living room in my small 700 ft condo.

I was wondering how to make the ceilings look higher. Right now ceilings are 8 ft tall and there's an open concept kitchen with island and recessed lights.

Would orange peel, or flat textures acheive this? Also, should I go with a semi-gloss, flat, egg shell finish of paint?

I'm also planing on putting crown molding. Will this make the ceiling appear higher? How thick of molding would you suggest?

Comments (35)

  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Do smooth flat ceilings
  • 12 years ago
    Flat.
  • 12 years ago
    Flat
  • 12 years ago
    What would you do with crown molding?

    I had read an article that said that glossy reflects light so it makes the ceiling appear higher?
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Paint the walls a lighter colour than the walls (subtle: one or two tones). Flat ceiling as everyone has posted. No crown moulding as it creates a visual definition between wall and ceiling.
  • 12 years ago
    How did you remove the popcorn ceiling? I have the same and it has been suggested to just drywall over it.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    No texturing or crown molding to give height.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Happy New Year Chook
  • 12 years ago
    Smooth and flat. And from the size and style of your condo it sounds like crown molding wouldn't be a useful addition.
    intelinside1 thanked feeny
  • 12 years ago
    HI - I agree with the smooth flat ceiling . Flat finish paint -"Aura" from Benjamin Moore and it's washable . Crown is just going to out line the ceiling and show the height . A good way to hide a ceilings height is to paint the walls and ceiling and even the baseboards the same color , then you won't see where the wall ends and the ceiling begins. This would also help if there is uneven walls/ceiling lines. Keep the color a lighter tone . Antique white or a warm white or a light grey or any light color . Eight foot high ceilings is the standard ceiling height .
    intelinside1 thanked lefty47
  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 12 years ago
    Thanks!! I'll be going with smooth flat like you all said. I was wondering should I go with a pure flat for kitchen ceiling too or should I go with a "flat enamel" so its easier to clean? Someone had told me for kitchen you should use semi gloss???

    Also that's sad about crown molding... i like a contrasting molding in my spaces...but I suppose that will make it feel smaller as lefty and others said
  • 12 years ago
    Also to bev - the ceiling was like a stucco hard material. Most popcorn is soft and sometimes has asbestos in it so it should be tested. Since it was stucco/masonry material we had it covered with mud/patch. It cost about $1000 for about 500 feet of ceiling to patch over and sand
  • 12 years ago
    intelinside1: If you really like and want crown molding you should use it. Eight foot ceilings are plenty tall enough for a modest crown molding.
    intelinside1 thanked feeny
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Feeny is right on. Crown is just fine to add a great accent. You were asking to optimize the perception of height so you got the answer of no Crown but we put crown in 8 foot rooms all the time and it looks great.
    intelinside1 thanked Collier Builders
  • 12 years ago
    Oh yeah I see that. Thanks. I might go with a thin crown molding. But since I also want the appearance of high looking ceilings maybe not... hehe I guess I wil have to decide soon.


    I will definitely go with the smooth flat paint like you all mentioned as well. Any more tips would greatly be appreciated
  • 12 years ago
    HI -- If the kitchen ceiling is all by itself , then you should go with a semi -gloss .
  • 12 years ago
    The kitchen living and dinning are one space approximately 550 sq ft
  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 12 years ago
    Just for reference, here is a chart with suggested crown molding sizes for different ceiling heights. These are not fixed rules, just suggestions for guidance so they look proportional:
    http://www.glasscreek.com/Web%20Pages/Article%20Files/Crown_Moulding.htm
  • 12 years ago
    Amazing answer, mickisue! Think I might put up with my 2 popcorn ceilings in 2 bedrooms, if worse than labour to remove!
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Its not nearly that hard. But as a professional I totally agree about hiring us to do it for you
  • 12 years ago
    Mickisue is precise in all she said. I was told the same by my painters. The house I just moved in has a popcorn ceiling in the great room. My house was designed by a student of Frank Lloyd Wright and Wright was known for putting in popcorn ceilings. In my kitchen there must have been a popcorn ceiling. The previous owners must have put drywall over it, which has been suggested what I do with my present popcorn ceiling. They said that is cheaper than scraping it off, dry walling still somewhat expensive. I never thought about the asbestos possibly a part of the ceiling. Thank you for sharing!
  • 12 years ago
    Wow, worse than labor too. Drywall it is! Never have been in such a horrible pain as labor. Still sends shivers down my spine!
  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 12 years ago
    "Wright was known for putting in popcorn ceilings": Do you have a source for that claim bevballew? I'm skeptical only because I had understood that popcorn ceilings started to be used in the late 1950's, and Wright died in 1959. You may very well be right, but it isn't something I've heard before. There are many different kinds of textured ceilings, but popcorn (or cottage cheese) ceilings usually date from a later era.
  • 12 years ago
    Not to doubt you, Collier Builders. But how many kids have you borne? WITH the proper tools, no doubt it's not so onerous. But with the basic spray bottle and wide putty knife, it is as difficult as I noted. I LOVE DIY, but won't do that particular version again!
  • 12 years ago
    HI -- The instruction for removing stippled ceilings is good to a point - but - if the stippled ceiling was ever painted then you cannot scrape it off - you will only be able to drywall over it . When a stippled ceiling was painted it had to be done in an oil paint because a latex would make it too wet and the texture would have fallen off . I am a Frank L Wright fan and have never heard of him ever using stippling or that kind of texture on his houses . The timing is off as said before .Most architects hate the cheap texturing .
  • 12 years ago
    Thanks for mentioning that, Lefty47. Ours hadn't been painted. I know this because we built the house in 1999.
  • 12 years ago
    I read a book on the architecture of Wright and it stated he did ceilings with texture. Not sure if precisely popcorn. I will have to look that up but it was then coincidental because my house was designed by a Wright student. I am not that savvy to distinguish between stipple and popcorn ceilings. I will check and get back on this. Wright did homes in Detroit in the early fifties and my house was built in the early fifties. I live in Detroit.
  • 12 years ago
    Take a damp paper towel, and rub an unobtrusive corner of the ceiling. If the texture melts off, it's unpainted popcorn.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    The most you can do to add height to a ceiling without actually raising it is to give it a very high gloss finish - it works by reflecting the room, thus doubling the height. Painting with high gloss is extremely difficult as it requires many coats and sandings to achieve a smooth enough finish, but we have the solution! Our ceilings are perfectly smooth because they're made of a stretched membrane. It can be installed right over popcorn without disturbing it at all, and we can keep the loss of height to under one inch!
  • 12 years ago
    Love those dining suites up on the ceiling!
  • 9 years ago

    I just removed painted - semi gloss - popcorn from 2 bedrooms and a hallway, living room, den and kitchen. I put a couple of cups of vinegar into my 2-gallon garden sprayer and filled the rest with water, then sprayed up close while on the ladder. The first soaking got the tips and some of the paint off, the second spraying took care of most of the rest. Just don't go hog wild scraping wet drywall! It IS a big job, but I really hate where I am now - the spackling and sanding and sponging the dust off. The two bedrooms and hallway are done - painted and finished and look really much brighter. Just be careful if you use the vinegar - whoever painted this place before did not prime the walls, and the vinegar wanted to take the paint off. I taped plastic along the top of the wall before I started. Sure wish I could afford Laqfoil...

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    If you are located in GTA, you may request a free quote and then decide if it will fit your budget.

  • 8 years ago

    A flat ceiling is a lot easier to repair.