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Engineered HW flooring suggestions needed

12 years ago
last modified: 12 years ago
We are working on updating a new-to-us home in Florida. Our master bedroom has been painted, and now we are looking at flooring. The ratty, stained old wall to wall carpeting will be pulled. Because we are on grade with a concrete slab, engineered hardwood flooring is the choice. We prefer a hand scraped or distressed finish.

Factors: large dog (nails are kept short, but still...), furniture is light to medium maple, walls are painted in Benjamin Moore Silvery Blue, trim and plantation shutters are white, and we would look for a floor that is a bit darker than the furniture, but not VERY dark.

We would prefer a product with a thicker top wood layer, and with a very durable finish. Not a fan of hickory's grain pattern. We considered bamboo, but have not found anything we really loved.

Will try to post photos of the space and furnishings, but we are dark and dreary here today, so may have to wait for the sun to shine again.

Specific product lines and colors are welcome!

Comments (22)

  • 12 years ago
    Thank you! I will check out your website. Oak is definitely an option. I had not considered an oiled finish, I've only been looking at the pre-finished products. Can you tell me about the oiled finish? Is it a stain? How well does it hold up? Thanks!
  • 12 years ago
    Whatever you do, just pick something that has color variation or is somewhat light. We had BR-111 engineered floors in Brazillian Teak and they showed every scratch, dent, foot print, dropped crumb, stray hair... it stresses me just thinking about it. The finish was a smooth, shiny finish too which didn't help. A distressed finish will help hide footprints.
    keysfins thanked Michele P
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    An oiled finish won't be as glossy. It will help to hide marks and nicks. Its also easier to repair. It does have more maintenance than a poly floor but its much prettier.
    keysfins thanked Oak & Broad
  • 12 years ago
    We were seriously considering engineered hardwood but my husband felt that the grooves we too deep were the boards come together in the distressed look, and that our dogs would catch a toenail in there, and we've already had a dog that had to have surgery for a torn toenail.

    The one thing you want to do is to make sure you buy from a reputable dealer like Oak & Board or your local floor store, not a big box store where they sell the ends of boards, rejects and seconds. If you want to see the quality of flooring from a place like Lumber Liquidators, google them with the word 'complaints' and you'll find a dozen websites with people recounting horror stories about their products.
    keysfins thanked hayleydaniels
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Good advice Hayley. For about the last two days there has been a fellow on Houzz blasting LL for a defective floor. Its been pretty epic. Dozens and dozens of posts.
    keysfins thanked Oak & Broad
  • 12 years ago
    I'm going to try to post a couple of photos of the bedroom. The first shows the new light blue wall color, with the adjacent wall still the dull wet-cement grey. The second shows one of our cabinets/chests in the medium maple color. The bed and night stands are similar but slightly darker, and have wrought iron accents in the headboard, foot board, and the door of each nightstand.

    I'll try to take more photos tomorrow, now that the bedroom is fully painted and we can put things back in place. The main room with the sitting area has four windows allowing good light all day. There is a short passage, about six feet, that opens on the large master bath, also with large windows that bring light through the hallway and into the main room.
  • 12 years ago
    Oak and Broad, I'm going to have to keep my eye out for that thread.

    We have been debating what solid wood flooring to go with, and because we're paying for your renovation as we go, we're trying to control costs so we went to LL to check out their floors. We were very impressed, got a lot of sample and were very seriously considering them except for the fact that they're hard to get it through very heavy traffic, and I HATE the freeway! We were then considering a Millstead maple but the reviews were sooo bad that we kept researching it. I got some great advice from Cancork as well as from the guys over on theflooringpro.com's forum. In going through posts over there, I came across threads talking about LL having 2 class actions lawsuits against them so I researched it, and spent the better part of an afternoon reading horror stories from people who wasted thousands of dollars on inferior floors. My two favorite comments were the guy who suggested that if you were thinking of buying from LL to just flush your money down the toilet now, and the guy who tore his defective floor out, threw it in the front yard and tells everyone about it.

    We ended up going with Mohawk 3/4" 3.25" white oak from the local flooring store. We picked it up yesterday, and since we don't have anywhere to store, I guess we'll be starting it in the next few weeks. My husband is an avid DIYer, and is reading everything he can about prepping and laying it.
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  • 12 years ago
    Many thanks for the heads-up on LL. o-0 We've found excellent vendors for our other needs, and we know the floor is an investment for decades.
  • 12 years ago
    @MicheleP, is that your floor? it is gorgeous! We just bought a teak dining set for our kitchen, and also have a teak set as our dining room set. Unconventional, but suited our tastes, and maintenance is minimal. Probably not in flooring though, from what you posted. Was yours a flat surface, or hand scraped/distressed in any way?
  • 12 years ago
    Yep-that was our kitchen. It was a totally smooth surface. It was beautiful. However, just not practical because it showed everything. Literally! I couldn't even walk through the kitchen with bare feet if they had any trace of lotion on them.
    My brother in law just installed a similar look in their house. Same smooth flat wood with a dark finish and they are cursing it the same. They have a beagle/jack Russell mix and his little footprints are unmistakable. Again - beautiful when clean, but who wants to clean it daily! Or, be embarrassed when company shows up when you haven't cleaned it.
    I'm not totally turned off by wood though. We're building house #2 now and we're doing a natural hickory wood floor. I'm figuring the light coloring plus the major color variance will disguise crumbs/hair/ footprints.
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  • PRO
    12 years ago
    This is one of my favorite threads this week. Thanks everyone for contributing.
    keysfins thanked Oak & Broad
  • 12 years ago
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    Going over to look at thefloorpro forum, thanks for mentioning that, haleydaniels. Oak & Broad, I did see the posts from that person you mention. He must have found every photo from LL and posted in the comments. LL always posted the same message in reply. A good warning!
  • 12 years ago
    I found the posts by jimbobreeve in the photo forum, and commented on them. I hope the word gets out about LL and they go out of business!
  • 12 years ago
    Yeah, just read a few threads over on thefloorpro forums. So it is safe to say that we will NOT be using LL. Instead, we have to wade thru all the options, brands, colors and construction.

    So I present a challenge
    Who can find me:

    a hand scraped/distressed engineered product
    with the tight grain of maple (no hickory, please),
    reddish brown (need to add some warmth in the room),
    Thick species wood layer to be able to refinish if needed
    Not shiny
    Tough and durable finish
    Will consider all price points
    Will be on grade on cement slab

    Ready? GO!

    :D
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Pshhhhh! That's easy! ;-) it will be custom. Joel@oakandbroad.com
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  • 12 years ago
    That is absolutely a possibility we would consider! :)
  • 12 years ago
    Update: we have not made any choices yet. Desperately need suggestions. We will be ripping out the carpeting. We looked at Hallmark Hardwood. The first photo is the Chaparral Collection in Walnut, color Saddle. The second is the Monterrey Collection, Hickory, color Casita, which has some blonde in it.

    None of them really thrill me. We looked at the samples in a showroom, not in natural light, and in our summer home up north. I think they will look completely different in the light we have in Florida.

    Ideas??
  • 12 years ago
    Oh, and personal preference: I just don't really care for the graining/contrast in hickory, although I know it is a very common wood for flooring.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
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    Florida presents a scenario requiring "special consideration"... in hardwood flooring.
    We're currently working with a Client (& their builder) on a project near Naples, FL.

    The choice is our engineered WALNUT in a specific style & texture desired by the customer.
    Great choice for that application!

    As they had noted... having shopped extensively for a substantial period, they concluded that they simply could NOT find what they wanted "off the rack" because all of the mass produced products (one of which you mention) were too limited in selection, looked "plastic", had very thin top layers, or all of the above.
    When they were able to see the difference "up close & personal"... it became obvious that there ARE differences which aren't always apparent when hopping from showroom to showroom and listening to the various "experts" ply their trade.
    We're happy that they made the choice to work with us... and I'm confident they will be more than satisfied as well!
  • 12 years ago
    ^^^^^Thanks so much for your post.

    Yes, we are finding slim pickings for what we want and what we've seen. My other half was just out again today and looked again at the Casita Hickory I mentioned above.

    It seems there are no vendors for Hallmark in Florida, but we could order it thru the shop up here and have it shipped. I'm still not crazy about hickory, though. And I would much prefer a local contact for us; it seems a big risk to order here, ship there, hope the floor is still what we want, and find an installer.

    Funny you mention Walnut, because that is one of the species of wood that I DO like for both the grain and appearance. I'd love to see what your client chose in the Walnut, if you can share that.

    I'll be looking at your website! :)
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    @keysfins...
    Actually it was YOU who had mentioned Walnut in your earlier comment above... one of the 2 choices you had listed.

    If you'd care to drop us a line at: david@selecthardwoodfloor.com I'd be more than happy to email you some pics & additional info on the choice made by our Florida Client, as well as some other options.

    re: the risky business of ordering vs. receiving what you want... sometimes that's a problem in working with the "mass production" products.
    What they put out as "samples" doesn't always coincide with what they are actually PRODUCING at a later date.
    We hear it all the time.
    As I say... if you'd like to converse at greater length on the subject, feel free to drop me a note...
    Thanks & good luck in whichever direction you take!