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Creating a dining area in small space

12 years ago
last modified: 12 years ago
We just bought a row home and are doing major renovations in few couple stages. Eventually (2-4 yrs) we are extending the first and second floor out farther for more space, but for now we need to create a dining space (for 4) with what we have.

Right now the front door opens to a hallway which separates the entrance from the kitchen. The separation is nice, but there just seems to be no place for a table unless we knock out that whole hall wall, or perhaps just the closet portion? We can't block the stairs. (Eventually they will be moved and straightened with the extension, but not yet).

Total width is about 16 feet. Any advice appreciated!

Comments (17)

  • PRO
    12 years ago
    Looks like the closet will have to go. What's the space under the stairs used for?
    tbrooke1 thanked Carolyn Albert-Kincl, ASID
  • 12 years ago
    That door is for stairs leading to the basement.
  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 12 years ago
    is it for a dining room, or just like a casual breakfast area?
  • 12 years ago
    if you knock out the closet, looks like there might be enough room for a round or small table in that area. If you are thinking more dining roomish, can you put a dinner table in the living room area?
  • 12 years ago
    Casual breakfast area is fine, I just want to make sure that 2 adults and 2 kids have a proper place to eat. :-)
  • 12 years ago
    I'd like to avoid a table in the living room area if at all possible, though it is an option. Since the space is small, I'd like to keep the living area as open as possible.
  • 12 years ago
    if that wall is as wide as the closet all the way to the front door, you might want to knock it down, put up a thinner wall, and not as long, to leave room for a table, and you can push your kitchen wall back.
    tbrooke1 thanked sarainitaly
  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 12 years ago
    I think you should use your closet area. Knock that out. You have a long hall by front door and could put some good looking hooks there to make up for the lose of closet.
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    tbrooke1 thanked pcmom1
  • 12 years ago
    Agreed - I think the closet is going to have to go and hopefully we'll have room then for a small table. I'm wondering if a stand alone table is best, or if we try to do a sort of peninsula extending off the existing counter space. (We're getting new counter tops anyway)

    Sarainitaly - the wall is as wide as the closet all the way down, but it houses the dishwasher and I think we need to keep at least some of the cabinets on that side.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    I like pcmom's idea of a banquette if the closet goes away.
    tbrooke1 thanked Carolyn Albert-Kincl, ASID
  • 12 years ago
    I like the banquet idea but I'm having a tad difficulty visualizing it. Would one side of the seating extend from the counter top (where the closet is now), and the other side be perpendicular (where the silly one seat table is now)?
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    I'm actually visualizing it as an L shaped banquette with one side of the L being where the small table is now and the other part of the L having its back to the hallway.
  • 12 years ago
    I meant to knock the wall down, and build a new one, that is much thinner, (so you can push the kitchen cabinets and dishwasher back, making your kitchen larger. Keep the entry wall looking like it is now, but knocking down the closet and all the way back to the entry door wall, and the wall on the kitchen side, and moving everything towards entry hall. Does that make sense?
  • 12 years ago
    I like a free standing table idea, so you can pull it out, and enlarge it, if you have dinner guests.
  • PRO
    12 years ago
    I think it's tough to throw on a bandaid when you're planning a major renovation in stages. IMHO any money you spend now could be wasted in the grand scheme if things. A quick sketch of the floor plan would be more constructive than photos we can't see the adjacent spaces in context.since
  • 12 years ago
    Great point! How about a sketch of your floorplan? Might make more sense to turn kitchen into a laundry/mud room and relocate kitchen.