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Does Scarlett O'hara MG re-seed?

20 years ago

I love morning glories. Heavenly blue has been a mainstay in my garden for over 25 years. It has never once reseeded in all that time.

2 years ago I grew Grandpa Ott and this past summer I had 1000's of volunteers from just 3 plants. They were still sprouting right up to a frost. I had planted them along the fence in my vegetable garden and it was so much work to keep them from taking over my vegetables. I finally grew weary of pulling them and figured the vegetables would shade them out and prevent flowering. I was wrong. I sadly removed the flowers on most of them to prevent them from going to seed. Still, I have a feeling I'll have the same problem this summer.

I recently ordered seeds of Scarlett O'hara. What was I thinking? Please tell me that she's tame and won't become a weed.

Thank you~

Comments (15)

  • 20 years ago

    I had Scarlett O'Hara seeds two years ago and was very disappointed with that one. There weren't nearly as many blooms as I get with Heavenly Blue, and the color was too red-wine for my liking. I had two enormous masses of it in the front yard (afternoon full sun), and unless you looked closely, it appeared to be 100% foliage.

    Thankfully, it did not reseed, but maybe that's because there were so few blooms!

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks Tina, that's very interesting that you didn't get amny flowers. I have a gardening mag with a picture of Scarlett on the front and it's filled with flowers.

    I don't think any MG can surpass heavenly blue.

  • 20 years ago

    Hi

    I'm so glad you asked this question and can't wait for more answers. So Heavenly Blue does not reseed?? Ever???

    I planted Milky Way and Blue Star along with HB back in '04. In '05 only Milky Way or Blue Star reseeded despite the fact that HB grew beautifully and nearly ate the other 2 varieties up. Neither was worth growing in my opinion...the centers weren't nearly as pronounced as any of the photos I've seen. Unless they were side by side, it was even hard to tell which was to have the bluer or more pink center!

    I was surprised in '05 when HB was nowhere to be seen but one or both of MW and Blue Star were all over the place. Like I said, it was difficult to tell which was which because the star color was not nearly as pronounced.

    I've grown MT. Fuji in the past but only the purple one seemed to grow. I never had problems with reseeding issues on that variety either but I thought I was just lucky. I didn't realize some reseed in abundance and others do not?

    I would love a list of the prolific and not so prolific reseeders.

    Can't tell you about Scarlett O'Hara. It is one on my "to grow for '06" list as well so I will definely be interested in responses you get.

    Michelle

  • 20 years ago

    I can tell you about Scarlett O'Hara. I planted from seed and had an extremely vigorous vine covered in lovely red flowers. And it did reseed -- like mad. I decided to grown clematis instead in that spot, so ripped out all the seedlings. But I enjoyed it a lot. I'm told that Heavenly blue is the only MG that doesn't self seed.

  • 20 years ago

    It's me, re_registering, I'm finally able to log in under my name.

    Kitty, that's too bad, I was looking forward to seeing those brilliant red flowers but I won't plant them now. I have major problems with flowers that self-seed. I thought I'd never get rid of the cleome's I planted 3 yrs ago.

    I'll just stick to my heavenly blues. Btw, I once grew heavenly blue up the guy wire on the telephone pole by the road. It grew up and started growing over the road. It was so beautiful, it stopped traffic.

    Anyone want seeds of Scarlett O'Hara?

  • 20 years ago

    LOL, aka_peggy what are you still doing here? ;-)

    I don't know much about Scarlett O'Hara...this will be my first time trying that seed...but I wanted to post about the MG that didn't flower much. If you're lucky enough to have very good soil in your garden your MGs may not produce a lot of blooms. With MGs good soil produces foliage and poorer soil produces blooms.

    (btw peggy, I saw that follow up post you made. Don't worry about it I figured you hadn't read all the way through. Nice to see you're still around.)

  • 20 years ago

    Hi MBT,

    It is indeed difficult to leave this place. No where else on the web can I post a message such as this and recieve an answer on the same day. And if I'd gone and planted ole scarlett I'd be hating life.

    Did you ever find out what your "weeds" are? Because I say the 1st one is horse nettle, the third is in the transacantia family of "wandering jew" and the 4th might also be nettle. I don't know what the 2nd one is but it sure is a pretty weed.

  • 20 years ago

    I planted a "Scarlet O'Hara" MG plant grown from seed along the fence. Now, every year, new "Scarlet O'Hara" seedlings pop up. They come true to the "Scarlet O'Hara" color. The area is dry and somewhat infertile which may be why the "Scarlet O'Hara" gets more blooms than the better-situated "Heavenly Blue" plants.

    Rhoda

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks Rhoda,

    Shelva, I forgot to add that heavenly blue has never re-seeded for me in all my years of growing it. Go figure.

  • 20 years ago

    Thanks Peggy:)

  • 20 years ago

    This makes so much sense to me now! I grew a HB last year and was SO AMAZED at the size and color of the bloom! I really think it was quite possibly the prettiest thing I'd ever seen! I took picture after picture...and was so disappointed when I got NOT ONE SINGLE SEED out of it! None! So I have to aquire more (not hard here on gw, *lol*) It's the best !
    Amanda 'romando'

  • 20 years ago

    Keep in mind if you start growing differnt varieties of MG's together you are going to get mutts for seedlings.

    Heavenly Blue may not reseed becuase they tend to be relatively late bloomers and may not set viable seed before frost. You may want to try planting Clarkes Early Himmelblau since it blooms 30 days before heavenly blue.

  • 20 years ago

    Hello!...I bought a bunch of Clark's Heavenly Blue seed to plant along my chain link fence this year....I live in zone 6, and I would like to get it to bloom long enough for me to enjoy it before frost sets in again next fall/winter!!...Should I start it indoors?..or just make sure to get it in the ground as early as possible this spring?..sometimes I have bad luck with starting things indoors, because they get long and leggy, or I get tired of fussing with it and waiting for spring to really arrive so I can get them in the ground...so sometimes I just waste my time doing that....if I do direct seed, what in a good general timeframe to do that in?...early april?..or staggered over a few weeks?..we do sometimes get late frosts, so our springtime can be tricky..last year, I direct planted some morning glory seed too late(I procrastinated)..and they were just getting ready to burst into bloom...when a killing frost came and took them:(...BTW...how do you know when the seeds are ready to harvest on a MG and about when does that happen?..shortly after flowering?..or when?....I have never been a seed collecter, but plan to start this year...thanks...GardenLove

  • 20 years ago

    Gardenlove, You could start your seeds around April 1st and bring them in on cold nights. I start lots of seeds indoors but I have a light garden. Last year I had something that nibbled my MG's to the ground early on. This year I plan to protect them.

    When the seeds are ready they'll feel nice and plump. If you're unsure, just harvest the entire pod and let it dry before squeezing the seed out. I always do that with seeds if I'm unsure.

    Romando, I have about 10 extra morning glory HB seeds if you want them. I can't get email right now so let me know here if you're interested.

  • 20 years ago

    I hope it is okay if I add on another question....how far apart do you space them from each other so that they don't cross breed? I have many different types of mgs to grow this year and will want to save the seeds from them.

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