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What's wrong with my 'Sonata Carmine' Cosmos ???

16 years ago

Bought two tiny 4-pks from local nursery (never had much luck with plants from this place). Looked real healthy. Have now been planted now for probably a month and are only about 3" at the most. Thought they were tall plants???

The tag is contradictory. Says "Compact, free-flowering. Use in beds, pots" - yet also says grows 20"-24" tall.

So do I have some special compact SHORT version?

Just FYI - I'd planted them randomly in my raised bed which gets a variety of different light. The ones in front, full sun ARE blooming and the tallest. So I moved the others up front with them. They didn't have much more of a root system when I dug them up than when I planted them. The soil is fine, everything else is doing great so it's not soil conditions. Even used food the nursery sold me to cause "profuse flowering" & good roots (yeah, right !!)

Am now just going to wait & see, I guess.

Another question - am I supposed to be deadheading them regularly? And this may sound dumb, but does that mean to JUST cut off the dead bloom....or cut the bloom and stem down to where it branches off from the main stem?

Comments (7)

  • 16 years ago

    Sonatta at 20 to 24" is a short variety of Cosmos, but not 3 inches. The taller ones are 3 or 4 feet tall. It is a full sun plant and shouldn't be planted in the shade.

    When you dug them up was the root still in that same little ball? It sounds to me that your cosmos was pot bound when you planted them, and if they were still in that same ball it confirms it.

    When a plant is in a small container for a long time the roots have nowhere to go so they go round and round in the bottom of the container. If you don't loosen them so they are hanging down they will continue to keep going round in the same way. The plant can't get what it needs to grow.

    Dig them up and loosen the bottom roots. Then give them a gentle squeeze from side to side and replant. You should always look at the roots of any plant before you stick them in the ground.

    As for deadheadding--The purpose of deadheadding is to remove the spent flower so it doesn't go to seed and so your flower will keep putting out more blooms. You just remove the flower. If you cut back to the stem you will be cutting off potential side shoots and have a mighty skinny plant with few flowers.

  • 16 years ago

    They've been known to sulk planted as transplants. There isn't anything much easier than cosmos planted by seed. You might consider giving that a whirl sometime.

  • 16 years ago

    Tks to both ! As far as rootbound, no...that wasn't the problem. In fact, they didn't have much of a root system to begin with, with the dirt falling off when removing them from the little pot. I think they weren't mature enough to be sold, now that you mention that.

    Oilpainter - TKS for explaining that about deadheading !! I have never been sure and would have cut it down to the main stem.

    Another question to you (or anyone) - I've always harvested seeds at the end of the year but I can save those dead flowers for seeds NOW, can't I? And can I toss them back in the ground now too?

    Calliope, I think you hit the nail on the head, esp. now that I've seen the pathetic root system. I have some seeds...will just throw them down in same area.

  • 16 years ago

    No you can't save those dead flowers--well you can but there is no seed in them. In order to make seed the seed pods have to stay on the plant and ripen. If you do that now you cut down flower production. Deadhead all summer and stop about a month before frost. Let the seed heads mature and ripen and when they are brown and ready to drop their seed then collect them.

    Having said that--you probably won't get the same flower or plant next year. Sonata is a hybrid and will in all likelyhood not come true. In order to get the same plant they have to be hand pollinated with like plants and then sealed in a net bag so no other pollinator can come near it. The seed is then collected and sold.

    Cosmos is not an expensive seed--I'd buy some if you want the same plant.

  • 15 years ago

    My Sensation Cosmos were started from seed in a seed pan and then transplanted to one gallon pots. I have about twenth of these pots growing in strong sunlight and they are growing strong. I have cut them and pinched them back to stay under fifteen inches tall, waiting for blooms to start because I want to bunch them by color when I palnt then in the garden.
    The Problem is there are no blooms, not even one! I rread t hat Cosmos need to be watrerered spariongly or they won't bloom and I have tried that for the last three weeks, to no avail. These potted plants are now about ten weeks old.
    Help Please!

  • 15 years ago

    Cosmos thrive in "lean" soils. If the soil has been enriched with fertilizing and the plants are given too much water, they don't do so well. They do, however, start to bloom more heavily as the days get shorter.

    Maybe this is a strange year; my 4-packs from a garden center were supposed to be the tall Sonatas. They're blooming heavily, but maybe only 18" tall.

  • 15 years ago

    Michael, if you stop pinching them, they might flower.

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