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Narrow area need to create 'depth'

17 years ago

I have a 2' wide planting area which is between a grey block wall and a large koi pond.

I want a Japanese Garden. I would like to plant along the wall so that it looks as though its a wooded area and there is something beyond it. The total length is 20'.

I understand with forced perspective that I need finer leaf plants further away and broad leaf closer. What I am wondering is should I plant all different vines/hedges or should I use one or two types and stagger them? Also should I vary the color?

I would like something that will give good coverage over the block wall and the chain link that is on top of it. I need something that will grow about 7-8' tall (to block out my neighbors orange house). The pond is made of liner so I need to be careful about what gets planted. I like podocarpus but I hear the leaves fall off (which is bad for the pond).

I would really appreciate your insight. I'm kind of stuck.

Comments (8)

  • 17 years ago

    Hello Taralynna,

    With 2' I don't think that you can achieve what you have mentioned. Finding a plant that can fit into the space single-file may be a challenge, let alone plants that can be layered in such a tiny space.

    There is an entire subset of Japanese gardens which operate within courtyards or other confined spaces, so I don't think that the wall should be viewed as such an obstacle to be disguised. Given the space and its relation to the koi pond - from the description is sounds rather small in comparison - you may be drawing attention to the wall rather than hiding it.

    Thinking of the wall as a wall, it could provide a backdrop for your koi pond, with either plants or constructed elements. Keeping the planting simple and clean will direct more attention to the pond in front of it, rather than to itself.

    - Audric

  • 17 years ago

    How about using a bamboo curtain or lattice on the wall as a backdrop behind your plantings? Nandina domestica, although somewhat slow, can provide height and evergreen foliage in a narrow space, and certainly fits the theme of a Japanese garden.

  • 17 years ago

    Posting photos can be very helpful in determining a direction to go, also some of the pros here will see less obvious options that haven't occurred to you that can help you get the look you want.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Same question

  • 17 years ago

    What's on the other side of the pond? If the view is decent, then reflect it with a mirror. A strategically placed and angled outdoor mirror can provide the illusion of depth you want.

  • 17 years ago

    How high is the wall?

  • 17 years ago

    The wall is block for about 2' and then chain link on top of the block. The total height is about 7'. I am hoping to have it a little higher so I can block out the neighbor's house but still benefit from his tall trees in the background.

    I will try to post a photo but not sure how to do it here. This photo is very old, from when we bought the house. I have rebuilt the pond and removed ALL of the vines and sagebrush etc. Its bare now. Sorry was to dark when I got home to take a photo.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Photo

  • 17 years ago

    To reinforce Audric's comments regarding enclosure, I would make the wall a wall or fence to the height that you desire. Below is a link to some examples of Japanese gardens. You will see both organic (bamboo/rattan/wood) and concrete/plaster walls examples. Do some looking on the web to see what you like.
    Once you have the enclosure you like, you are free to continue the design with plants.

    http://www.the-landscape-design-site.com/gardenstyles/japanese.html

  • 17 years ago

    I thought the OP might come back with a cleaned up photo of the area, but maybe not. Anyway, at the photo site I found a clean photo from another angle.

    {{gwi:7526}}

    Here the wall and strip in question is barely seen on the left. I think I would choose to do a frame there with a background of dark gray and raised panels of a lighter gray. Not shown, I might also add 4" horizontal timbers 16" long sticking out at the top between the panels. A vine could be intertwined along the top.

    My main focus would be the water discharge into the pond. Here I would remove many of the stones from the right side and back to create a dark recessed area with slightly overhanging stone ledge at the top back.

    To frame the new focal point I would use a small weeping or pendent tree to left and use a few plants with contrasting and distinctive foliage to the right.

    {{gwi:7527}}