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not sure whats going on

16 years ago

I've been having issues with spots forming on my tomato plants, they are in a container. Get plenty of water and sun. At the beginning I thought it was blossom end rot, I consulted our local gardening store (earl mays) they suggested either hydrated lime or some sort of spray fungicide. So I did just that, I placed about 1 cup of hydrated lime in our pots which are filled with approximately 2 gallons of soil (miracle grow "moisture control"). As you can see im new to container growing and we're under budget restraints. Anywho, to the problem, after the spots on the fruit started appearing, yellowing of leaves at the base of the plants started forming as well. Here are some pictures I took after I pulled them off (I was told to do so if they appeared to be dieing which they were)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc183/darkcloud784/BLOSSOMENDROT.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc183/darkcloud784/BLOSENDROT2.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc183/darkcloud784/07211BER.jpg

Comments (8)

  • 16 years ago

    This might make it easier for everyone to see it...good luck!

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  • 16 years ago

    Are you sure it was hydrated lime? If so, therein lies your problem. Soil solution pH would be through the roof.

    Al

  • 16 years ago

    I thought something of the same thing, but what i cant wrap my head around is that the fruits being effected happened even before the hydrated lime was introduced. However the leaves weren't yellowing/dieing. It rained alot for a week, and I thought that could have been the issue with leaves, but its been a week of hardly any rain and I water the plants 1 time a day and between 3 plants I use less than a gallon of water. Is what's happening to the plants blossom end rot? or is it some sort of other fungal issue? early blight maybe?

  • 16 years ago

    I think what WAS happening to the plants (almost certainly BER) has probably been grossly superseded by what IS happening as a result of the lime application. I don't know what to tell you. I can't think of any way to resolve the issue of the lime, unless you flush and flush and flush some more. Even then, I don't have a lot of hope. I do wish you well, though.

    Al

  • 16 years ago

    I usually dont see BER in fruit that young.I used to have a problem with this same issue, I believe its called fruit abortion and can be cause by the srtees of over fetilization and rapid growth. And I know this because it happened to me in my early swc's days. And it can be mistaken for BER.

    Damon

  • 16 years ago

    Darkcloud:

    Imagine going to your doctor with Asthma. they mis- diagnose you and say you have a blood pressure problem, then give you medicine to lower you blood prssure.

    You still have a breathing problem from the asthma, and now your blood pressure is too low and you also now have fatigue in your legs; so you overdose on the Blood pressure medicine thinking the dose is not enough. you end up in the Emergency Room and the Admitting DR is scratching his head saying "WTF"?

    That is where your plants are.

    Might try rinsing and rinsing, but, you may have to bare root and transplant into good fresh potting mix and pray.

    Who told you to put a cup of lime in a 2 gallon container??

    I go a tablespoon at a time in 5 gallons.

    Oh well, things learned the hard way are seldom forgotten... You probably wont make these errors again.

    you should water when slightly dry, not by the calender; What was you fertilizere and regiment? Good sun? Temperature oK 55-95F?

    How much time before the Cold spell comes?

    d

  • 16 years ago

    I live in nebraska, the temp here has been hot and very humid lately. Anywhere from 85-116F and our fall doesnt start for a few months yet our temp generally drops pretty fast around sept.-oct., the people that told me to put the lime (in that amount) was the people at earl mays, assuming they were correct, I added it in without question. However only on topsoil. After reading posts here I removed the top soil and watered the plants. They arent dead yet, and before the situation got too bad I consulted you guys here. Since I've read some posts here on the subject I thought it would be appropriate. I hope they make it, I removed ALOT of the lime, is there anyway to balance the pH? I read something about adding pine needles if its too low and dolomite if its too high is this correct information or should I just keep watering them and hope they survive?

  • 16 years ago

    You can add a little vinegar into the water and use this at every watering. Also, be sure to let the tomatoes tell you when to water. They are very sensitive to over-watering. Be sure not to water them unless you know they need it. Using MG moister control, the soil takes a long time to dry out. Another problem with this mix is that when it breaks down the water has a difficult soaking into the entire container, rather forming little drainage through it to the drainage holes. You should be able to make it through the season, but try the 5-1-1 next season and you'll like the results!