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Fat Albert

19 years ago

I live in Indiana (zone 5) and I'm getting ready to plant a Fat Albert Spruce fairly close to the foundation (12-14') in the front of the house and would like some ideas on some companion plants/shrubs/grasses to put in front of it (nearer the street) that will accent one another. I'd really like this to make a huge statement as the spruce will be a focal point on a raised "mound" with full exposure to passer-byes on the street.

Also, any ideas for companions for Red Prince Weigela that will help accent one another? The house is a medium tan color...almost taupe. I wanted to use the weigela to add some height along the west side (pretty much full sun) of the house as it currently has no plantings and is nothing more than a plain 2 story wall (with no windows) of vinyl siding. I have considered using Summerwine Ninebark...maybe even Diablo, however, I'm a bit concerned that it won't be dense enough to provide the "cover-up" I'm looking to get. They get kinda "leggy"??? or tend to have the long stems sag toward the ground. Someone recommended a burning bush as it is quite dense...but I'm not thrilled with the idea as they seem more formal and shaped to me. I love the ninebark but I'm also a bit concerned the color will get lost against the house. If you have ideas....would you please offer some thoughts on companion plants (perhaps lower growing border-type) that would accent. Thanks!!!!!

Comments (7)

  • 19 years ago

    How the plants accent each other is more than just house and plant colors. There spatial relationship, negative space, and temporal changes to those spaces created are all more important.

    Of more immediate concern is the FA. Have you checked the diameter of a 10-year old FA? It will be growing into your living room in no time or else require tremedous pruning resulting in a half pyramid shape.

  • 19 years ago

    "Look at me!" landscape design usually winds up a misguided, disappointing failure. To be sure, a 'Fat Albert' spruce can be a wonderful tree in the right setting. However, there is much more to creating a visually pleasing landscape than plunking in a few exclamation points. For one thing, the static nature of that design attempt becomes quickly boring.

    If your goal is to stop traffic, you have design considerations of far greater importance than concern the color will get lost against the house.

    It seems as though you are trying to decorate the cake before you have even baked it. Pay attention to good design basics and then build upon them.

    For one thing, you say you want your plantings to stand out but yet you are cramming them against the house in an ever-so-ordinary way. This is a common practice that I call 'perimeter paralysis'. If you want plantings to stand out; consider literally having them stand out; as in, away from the house.

    IronBelly

  • 19 years ago

    I am happy to take the advice of people with far more knowledge of landscape design and I came to this forum looking for help. So, please don't think I am disregarding the responses you have given. However, correct me if I am mistaken but a "Fat Albert" Blue Spruce is to get 15-20' tall with a diameter being no greater than its height. Therefore, if, as I indicated, I was digging the hole for planting a fat albert at about 12-14 FEET away from the house....how will it encroach???????

  • 19 years ago

    Don't get hung up on my mis-reading 14 inches for 14-feet, after all I haven't invoiced you.

  • 19 years ago

    Fat Albert (Picea pungens) is supposed to be a semi dwarf slow grower. It's conceivable the next owner of your home might see it reach its full potential height and spread.

    I'm thinking taupe as being kind of neutral so I don't think you're too limited as to color palette with the house as a backdrop. Ninebark is nice, but my experience is only with a couple of "Dart's Gold" picked up on the cheap at one of the big boxes in August of 2006. Someone on another forum thought to prune Ninebark hard the first few years to get them to grow dense. I wouldn't go that route since mine leafed out this spring dense enough and are a ways away from major branch arching. And with a little arching - there goes your formal, shaped look.

  • 19 years ago

    2 storey height of nothing but siding screams out "tree-planting opportunity" to me. Why are you using shrubs instead? It strikes me you might have plenty of room for both.

    KarinL

  • 19 years ago

    Currently, there is nothing planted along the foundation "bed" along this 2 story vinyl-sided wall. However, within 10' of the bed is a 2-story + tall maple tree. It's kinda positioned such that it appears centered along the wall. So, the idea of planting trees in the foundation bed is hard for me to imagine. Therefore...the weigela...or something. Again, the ninebark is way cool (to me) but I just am concerned about its color not standing out against the fairly dark wall. Thanks for your ideas.