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Aborted goat?

19 years ago

We have a 2 year old doe who kidded once last year. She's basically the runt of the herd and hardly fends for herself, therefore she is by no means fat. Her previous owner told me she kidded without problems last year and after seeing her doe kid I was impressed. We bought 5 pregnant does from the lady and keep them seperate from our original herd since they will be kidding soon. I noticed the other does really knocking this little one around and she was getting hit in the side quite often. After she started having a bloody mucous discharge we decided to put her by herself. This has been 3 weeks ago that she started discharging and she hasn't dropped anything other than a couple strings of bloody mucous. She's due in 2 1/2 weeks and hasn't started bagging up. We gave her two 8cc injections of bio-mycin after seeing the discharge. Is it possible at 4 months along she absorbed the fetus? I really don't know what to think at this point. She doesn't look pregnant and she hasn't been off her feed. Basically she's been totally normal except for the discharge. Any suggestions or similar experiences?

Comments (17)

  • 19 years ago

    To me it sounds like she has been banged around to much, so she could very well be aborting this baby. If she keeps this up I would be getting the Vet there, If things don't go right, you could lose both of them.
    There are other people on here that could help you more, I could be wrong. But, I know what I would do.
    Sandie

  • 19 years ago

    jaime 202'
    we lost 5 this year like that i observed them slaming each other in the side'then about several hours later they would pass the fetus on out.they only get roudy and rough with each other at feeding time.our's is boer mixed breed. what kind are yours? it's hard to keep them seperated during pregnecys when you got humpteen hundred more to keep up with.

    good luck

    james

  • 19 years ago

    I did a quick search and found what looks like a good website regarding goats.

    http://www.goatworld.com/

    It may be that your goat aborted due to rough-housing, however, I agree with littlereo that a vet visit is in order. It is a good idea to have a relationship established with your vet so you are covered regarding vaccinations, worms/parasites, nutrition--vitamins, minerals, protein, roughage; and perhaps recommendations regarding the housing and environment. I believe it was good to take her out of the general herd, and feed her up to a good body condition. I had a runt sow who produced beautiful litters of babies. You will appreciate having a good relationship with a vet when you find you need one at 2:00 a.m. If you don't already have a vet, find one who knows and likes goats. Good luck to you.

  • 19 years ago

    This particular doe is 100% boer, so we're really hoping this pregnancy will be alright. She's pretty thin but she had impressive twins last year. I was kind of hoping it wouldn't come down to calling a vet since the expense is so high, but at the same time it might save quite a bit in the long run. What I don't understand is if the kids are dead why does it sometimes take awhile before they're born?

  • 19 years ago

    jaime'every time our's started leaking mucus looking stuff or the plug as they call it they passed it on out shortly withen 3 or 4 hours [dead] hopefully yours is alive still.where I live you can mention goat to a vet and they do not like to mess with them.last year I had a 100% south african boer in labor that could not give birth we called about 5 vets and i had to beg him to deliver them

  • 19 years ago

    all of my above message didn't get printed.the vet only charged us 40$ to deliver the kids.as for her not bagged up i've had them wait 6 or 8 hours before giving birth to bag up.you might be better of to find a vet to examine her.I would like to hear the outcome of this. I hope the best for her and her kid or kids james.

  • 19 years ago

    are you certain she was bred in the first place? Did you use a stethascope and hear the kids heartbeats? Is it possible that she is not bred, therefore not gaining, bagging etc, and the discharge is just her regular cycle?
    I'd get a listen for the heartbeats first off. YMHO

  • 19 years ago

    While I am no goat expert, I do have some knowledge of broodmares. You don't say how long you have had your goats, but it sounds as though your experience isn't vast. If she has/is aborting, and the fetus hasn't passed out, she can develop a severe infection from the dead tissue, etc., especially if there is a ropy discharge hanging from her to provide a pathway in. You NEED to get her cleaned out or the probable infection can scar her uterus anad prevent future pregnancies. If you have no way of safely taking samples from inside her and culturing them for infection, or ways to see what is inside her, such as ultra-sound, then you need a vet, who can do these things. If you just give her antibiotics, in the hope that you can cure it, you are probably deluding yourself, and setting up problems for the future - you don't KNOW she has a bacterial infection, you don't KNOW what the bacteria are if she does have one, and you don't KNOW what antibiotic will kill off those possible bacteria, so you may be creating a population of resistant bacteria. You really should have access to a vet that is willing to treat goats, and call him, at least in the beginning, until you are more familiar with probable conditions of illness and problems (after which you both may be comfortable with a phone call, and the suggestion that you will treat Goat X as you treated Goat Z, since the symptoms are almost identical, and will call the vet if things aren't better in a few days...). If there is a REALLY knowledgable neighbor, then his/her knowledge would possibly substitute for some of the vet visits, if not most of them. You can learn only so much from books, and then you have to get real-time experience, which is why vets go to school for as long as they do. Sometimes, you may be going to be the one to put the animal down, because you need to end suffering. If you can't accept the losses, then maybe keeping goats isn't for you. Sorry to sound hard on you, but doing a really good job of keeping animals well is something of a pet peeve of mine.

  • 19 years ago

    What I like about liveing where I do we have a Goat Vet., She has gone for goats because goats are getting to be more and more around here, and she has done WONDERS for us in the past!
    I sure hope you get the vet that you need!!!!!!!
    littlereo

  • 19 years ago

    SEND ONE TO NORTH ALABAMA !!"())((

  • 19 years ago

    Jaime sent me a private e-mail, rightfully saying that as I had no goat experience, that goats and broodmares aren't the same and that I didn't know that he had 7 years experience raising goats, I had no right to call him down for his goat treatment. He is right - I should have found out more about the situation before I said anything. I apologize to him.

  • 19 years ago

    Dibbit, I wouldn't have apoligized...

    First off, this person asked on a public forum for advice.
    You gave it to the best of your knowledge, and I don't care what species it is, if an animal is supposed to be pregnant, has uterine discharge, for THREE WEEKS, you can pretty well bet something is very wrong.

    3 weeks letting this goat have the discharge and doesn't call a vet? Your remark about the care of animals, to me, is justified.

    Can't afford to call the vet? Then don't keep animals that are dependant on your care.

    M

  • 19 years ago

    Thank you marquisella for your post but I must clear some things up. Yes I did ask for public advice and that's what I received. Our doe hasn't been discharging for three weeks, she only had the discharge for about 5 days which I should have cleared up in the beginning. So I'm sure you can see that we are not abusing our goat. We would certainly not be in the business if we didn't care for our animals because they would all be dead. I have discussed this situation with very experienced friends and they have said the same thing, to wait until her due date to see if she bags up and if not call a vet. She may or may not be pregnant or the babies could be dead. We'll see.

    By the way, to whomever it concerns, I'm a girl not a he.

  • 19 years ago

    Sorry for the gender confusion, the last Jaime I met was male...

  • 19 years ago

    That's alright. I ought to be getting used to it by now, I get more man-oriented mail than my husband!

  • 19 years ago

    Jamie,

    Thanks for the clarification. It did seem from your original post that the whole discharge thing had been going on for 3 weeks.

    Hope it turns out well.

    M

  • 19 years ago

    The woman who sold us this doe recently told me that she may actually be due in March. It would've been very nice to have known that sooner, but that's how things go. I would like to thank all of you who helped us on this one, we really appreciate it! I'll post how things go when the time comes. Thanks again!

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