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16 years ago

Need some advice on starting things inside for a spring, summer, fall garden. I used the search tool but kept getting the same results, none of which were much help. I'm trying to plan next years square foot/tire garden because my garden went in WAY too late to really get any summer crops in. What temp do things like greens, lettuce, and broccoli start to bolt? I'd love to get 2 or 3 plantings of green leafy things... I've been gardening for a ew years but there's still so much I don't understand. Like DTM dates. I've got some broccoli that says 58 DTM... is that from direct seeding or transplant? My goal is to get as much planted and harvest as much as possible with as little space as possible.

I'd like to do a cole (cold?) crop for fall... I've never done anything beyond planting a few mustard greens. It's really to hot to plant anything else right now where I'm at. What could I put in for a fall crop? I was thinking broccoli, onions (will they grow in the cold?), various greens, garlic (for spring harvest), and maybe some lettuce. Is there anything I'm leaving out? I wish I could garden year round but don't have the means to do it. Is there something I could grow in tires in the fall? I have a lot of questions and have trouble asking them in coherent sentences. :P

Comments (6)

  • 16 years ago

    I don't have results from my first attempt at SFG yet but it is looking like I will have a 168 sq. ft. root ball by the frost!

    To delay lettuce from bolting, cover it with a white sheet. You can almost grow it year round - I harvest some last year from mid-March until Jan. 1 - and I am in Zone 5.

    DTM is usually from transplanting or germination if direct sown but can be influenced by the age of seedlings. Nankeen Cotton is a 150 DTM plant but I have blooms now and have had for a week or two. It was nearly Memorial Day when transplanted into the garden, but they first germinated on January 29 and were transplanted to 3" nursery flat cells on Feb. 7. OTOH, my Calabrese Broccoli (60-90 days) germinated March 1 and just now is getting heads almost large enough to harvest. It was transplanted in mid-May.

    As far as what to sow now, go to some place like rareseeds.com (you don't have to buy from them if you have a fav of your own) and check out all the different veggies. Research the ones that look interesting, such as type of weather, cold-hardiness or heat tolerance, DTM, etc. This should give you a rough idea of what you can grow.

    Good luck,

    Mike

  • 16 years ago

    I am just now starting my fall garden. I am going to be putting in broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, lettuce, swiss chard, beets, radishes, peas, spinach and brussels sprouts. Fall garden is the best time for me to plant since it gets so hot so fast. Brocolli and cauliflower will start to both over 75 F and the others just don't do well in much hotter temperature. I time my fall garden planting so that everything matures a week or so before first frost. I use a great site to help you with dates and such at vegenag.com. You just input your zip code and all of the dates configure off of your frost free date for optimal planting on any vegetable. It is a free service. Let me know if it solves your problem.

    Here is a link that might be useful: VegeNag

  • 16 years ago

    phantom_white,
    try this: Grow Guide.
    If you'd like to plan out ahead of time for next year, just change the date and there ya go! :)

  • 16 years ago

    amlinde78

    Looks and smells like advertising to me. Not allowed in Garden Web.

    Mike

  • 16 years ago

    It says it's free during beta testing. I like the talk of products you can use for planning or growing gardens. I have found some new and interesting tools that way so talk of gardening tools of any kind is not spam.

    Cold weather crops can be beets and potatoes as well, but it will take a long time as in almost in April for your winter potato crop to be done. Turnips are also a winter crop, found them both out the hard way, have only a few left due to hot weather.

    Collard greens, bok choi, wasabi, and maybe kolorabi since it's a brassica type vegetable. Wasabi is expensive and grows in cooler running water conditions like watercress greens, not the watercress found in chinese foods that look like a white carrot.

    Good luck on your plants.

  • 16 years ago

    The vegnag is free and kinda fun! I've already gotten a nag or 2. No harm in my book! NT

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