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19 years ago

Hi all!

I've been reading reading reading and am getting very excited about trying hypertufa. :)

I need some very large, long planters probably similar to the old horse troughs hypertufa mimics! We are going to have a patio area that's divided by low retaining walls. I'd like to use these planters instead of albeit nice, un-green walls.

I'm no way ready to start, and from what I read, I have to wait for better weather. I'd like it if someone could tell me if I'm on the right track, though. So, not necessarily in this order:

Using one of the many, similar hypertufa recipes, and using appropriate space-suit attire, I will make my mixture.

I'll have to build some kind of support structure in the trough shape I want.

Use some plastic tube to make drainage holes in the bottom.

I think I'll have to use a nonsticky thing so the hypertufa doesn't adhere to my structure, if it ends up being plywood.

I'm thinking I'll have to have chicken wire pieces cut and ready to go for the top and bottoms. I'm imagining I shouldn't use pieces cut per shape, but rather having it wrap wround the corners for strength..?

I think, for the inside mold, I could probably use appropriatly shaped cardboard boxes. Updside down seems the strongest.

I'd have to pack in the tufa carefully to avoid air pockets and to cover the chicken wire.

I'd have to make this in place and cure it for a heck of a long time.

Am I missing anything important?

Now here's the dream: I am enamoured with Dena's leaves. They're absolutely gorgeous. Would it be possible to create some leaves to decorate these containers? I realize molding hypertufa doesn't give intricate detail, but would it be a good background for the more detailed leaves? If I can figure out how to create those gorgeous pieces!

Thanks!

Christine

Comments (3)

  • 19 years ago

    Hey, Christine

    Let's see if I can address your concerns one by one.

    > I'm no way ready to start, and from what I read, I have to wait for better weather

    If your project is too big to carry out, you will have to do it on location. Then, yes, you have to wait for right weather. If you have an area indoors, where temperatures are moderate, you can work there. I work in my garage.

    > Using one of the many, similar hypertufa recipes, and using appropriate space-suit attire, I will make my mixture.

    You just need rubber gloves. The lime will roughen your skin. I work in shorts and old shoes. I use clothing I don't want to be seen in, something I wont mind throwing away once I've taken it too far ;-)

    > I'll have to build some kind of support structure in the trough shape I want.

    I've discovered just about anything works

    see Why Square?

    > I think I'll have to use a nonsticky thing so the hypertufa doesn't adhere to my structure, if it ends up being plywood

    As you can see in the aforementioned link, dressing with garbage bags works quite nicely.

    > I think, for the inside mold, I could probably use appropriatly shaped cardboard boxes. Updside down seems the strongest

    Remember cardboard should get wet or it will crumble. You can dress it in plastic bags to prevent this, or try something else. As long as it withstands the weight of a couple of inches of tufa, anything works ;-)

    > I'd have to make this in place and cure it for a heck of a long time.

    If you can't carry it, and you can't roll it using a trolly or something to that effect. I put mine in position after curing for a week, but I'm in zone 10, where temperatures are more cooperative.

    > I am enamoured with Dena's leaves. They're absolutely gorgeous. Would it be possible to create some leaves to decorate these containers?

    Look up "double lead fountain" in this forum. I'd give you the link, but the admins where I work block everything. I'll get it to you when I'm back home if you haven't found it yet.

    I would do the leaves first. Then, when they're dry, start working on the plantes and slap the leaves on the outter part while the tufa is still wet. All depends on the effect you're looking for.

    Hope this helps

    Oh, and I musn't forget: CONFIDENCE! Worse case scenario, a couple of projects won't work (this happened with me). If you're concerned, start with small projects, like building small planters using small molds, like yogurt containers or something. It really isn't rocket science :-)

  • 19 years ago

    For dressing up your planters, try this link:
    http://www.cpag.net/guide/4/4_pages/4_3.htm

    There is more knowledge and inspiration than I can stand!

    Good luck!!!

  • 19 years ago

    Rubber gloves *and* a dust-mask or respirator. You only have to wear the mask until the cement & sand (if you use sand) are wetted. Silicosis rivals asbestosis in future nastiness.

    Double gloves are good if you use fragile ones.

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