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how did you get theshower door without a header?

14 years ago
My glass guy said I would need a header for the shower glass since my door is on an angle like this shower, But I see there is no header here?
How did you manage that? Do you have issues with the door?
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Comments (11)

  • 14 years ago
    We just built a house and in our bathroom shower we didn't even bother with a shower door (depending on which way your shower head is pointed). We just have one glass "wall".
  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 14 years ago
    We don't have a header in either of our two showers. Try frameless glass shower enclosure. You should be able to find a lot of sources. Our contractor had a local glass company do this for us. In one case, the company had not heard of this but we provided them with an on line resource complete with how to video and all the parts used, and they were able to successfully order it and put it in.

    In one bath, it is just a straight wall with a door hinged at the end. In the other it goes around the corner on a half wall.
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    Aga-lite is one glass mftr I use often for frameless shower & tub surrounds. I've found that you often have to lead with your design goal to get what you want without a lot of hardware when planning through a dealer. Height, width & location of door hinges make all the difference
  • 14 years ago
    This is what we did, similar to other picture. Sometimes contractors just don't get it unless they have a visual!
  • PRO
    14 years ago
    So true...and you've got to ask for extra backing at door hinge wall locations and other support walls. It's good assurance for stability if you've got long or high runs of glass
  • 14 years ago
    I see what some of comments are saying, but in my specific case the door needs to hinge from the center panel which is completely different in terms of stability than a door than hinges from a wall.
  • 14 years ago
    Could you use a slding door? The slider will show across the top but it will be stable. Here is mine with the slider. Our other one has a hinge along the wall on the left side. This one with the slider could have been on the right wall, but we didn't have room for it to swing out.
  • 12 years ago
    Great question. I would love to know that answer as well. Some installers are saying they can do it fine as shown. Others are saying that there is not enough support for the non-door panels without the header.
  • 11 years ago
    I would also like to know the answer to this question. I've been told we either need the header or the glass panel the door is hinged to would need to go all the way to the ceiling to allow the necessary support for the door.
  • PRO
    11 years ago

    I am a Journeyman Glazier with overs 25 years experience. All I do is frameless showers, installing 4000+ to date.

    The answer to this question lies in the measurements & layout of the shower. The above-mentioned design is a "neo-angle," which will typically (although not necessarily) hinge glass-to-glass. The weight of the door is significant, and as a result will often require a support bar. Smaller glass-to-glass arrangements have less weight to carry and therefore can be done without a glass header or bar.

    This particular shower is different in that it incorporates a pony wall. The wall helps to better support the weight of the door, but the bigger concern is the large, mostly unsupported panel by the door. This almost certainly required either to be mounted to the ceiling, or with a brace, or a header panel. It's no wonder this was cheaper, because you're missing necessary hardware.

    You do need to remember that this is glass, and glass is heavy. An under-supported layout is dangerous and a good tradesman will not sacrifice safety to aesthetics.

    A better option would have been to either a) mount the door on the wall, or b) run the two side-panels up to the ceiling to create the required support. Other shower lay-outs may or may not have the same issues, again dependent on size, and whether the door is glass mounted or not.

    For other neo-angle layout ideas, visit my Houzz page (http://www.houzz.com/projects/752680/custom-neo-angle-frameless-showers)


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