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Tecumseh fasteners

16 years ago

I have been having fun with my Ariens Sno-throws. The muffler fell off #1 and then the intake backed out on #2. I tightened the intake up with a big Phillips that I turned with pliers until I was afraid I was gonna shear them. There are no washers. I am gonna try some toothed washers. If that doesnt work, mebbe Loctite, but I dont like using it. These are old Tec flatheads by the way.

Any suggestions? TIA.

Comments (12)

  • 16 years ago

    The carb fasteners don't get torqued all that much. I think maybe 10 ft. lbs. which is a good hard twist with a screwdriver. In reference, a spark plug with a washer is torqued to 15 ft. lbs.

  • 16 years ago

    There is a Loctite product that is not as agressive as
    the regular Loctite. It is designed for use on something
    you might want to disassemble someday.

  • 16 years ago

    Andy the Toothed or serrated washers combined with your Girlies Nail Polish applied liberally to the threads will more than hold the Carb Intake Bolts . As for the Muffler I would use loctite it will ensure no bolt loosening . I would suggest that due to thermal cycles the threads are beginning to become a loose
    fit class , which if you keep tightening will eventually strip out. The loctite will still allow fastener removal when req'd .

  • 16 years ago

    Use Loctite 242 (blue)

  • 16 years ago

    Well. I used the star washers and tightened the screws as tight as I dared. I ran the beast for about 10 minutes. When it had cooled down I was able to wiggle the muffler. I found some blue Loctite in my stuff and will try it tomorrow. I'm thinking of drilling the screw heads and safety wiring them together.

  • 16 years ago

    Andy , Loctite will suffice , but if your really bored safety wire them . As i said the threads are apparently shot , it's routine on many exhaust manifolds on small engines where what you have continued to do makes the problem worse . Proper lock washer or thread locker would have prevented this , but that hindsight lol . If all else fails you will have to drill out your block and retap the holes over size. Old Blowers are notorious for this problems . That and Helicoil for the Spark Plug Threads.

  • 16 years ago

    I blue loctited the screws this afternoon. I cleaned up the screws on a wire wheel yesterday. I ran the ngine for about 5 minutes before removing the screws and gooping them with thread locker. There were no lock washers on the muffler when I found this engine. The screws tighten up fine, there is no hint of stripping up to 25 foot lbs or so. If I have to re-tap, what size do you recommend?

  • 16 years ago

    I did not mean to imply negligence on your part for the lockwasher issue Bro ! But many people continue to overtighten Fasteners . In a perfect world every fastener has a proper Torgue Sequence and Load. The Intake Manifold of the Carburator was the Serrated Washer Cure that I was referring Too. Loctite was the Cure for the Thermal Cycles that the Muffler Studs are subjected to. As far as having to tap out the Threads I really don't think you will have to if you actually could torgue them as stated. If you ever have to drill and tap refer to a Tap & Drill Chart . Drill to the next closest size over to the Original and use the appropriate tap from the Chart. I love Old Machines & you will too if your have enough patience and Common Sense..All th Best let us know how you make out Bro !

  • 16 years ago

    Heh heh. Sorry, I was feeling feisty. I'm just a shadetree hack, but I've been hacking for 50 yrs. Plan C is to run 8mm coarse thread bolts into the 5/16, The bolts' pitches are quite close. 5/16" = 7.9mm So an 8mm is a tight fit. I've done this before in steel drilling out sheared 8mm bolts. I didnt have an 8mm tap, so I tapped the holes with 5/16. With a little oil and some patience, I chased the holes with 8mm bolts.

  • 16 years ago

    Hey nothing wrong with Shadetree Hacks Dude ! Some off the best ideas have came from some of my Buddies who are back yard mechanics ! It never surprises me , what a little common sence and patience can provide . Sounds like Your Ole Ariens has a good home all the Best ..Ty !

  • 16 years ago

    I must have fixed real good. It hasn't snowed since I loctited the muffler screws.

  • 16 years ago

    Andy: I hear ya Dude , isn't that the way it always goes lol . :)