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Raspberries -- Planting Methods ?

17 years ago

Hello fellow gardeners!

We are planning on planting about 30 or so raspberries along the sunny east facing wall of our barn. There is only grass there now. The soil is good, not too hard, not too soft. Everything seems to grow like crazy as long as the insects don't eat it up.

We were looking at Heritage and Caroline (I like the reds) and we've decided to go with the Caroline or a mix of 1/2 and 1/2.

We're having a debate on how to properly prepare the area, plant the raspberries, and then weed control in the future. Here are the 5 ideas we have:

1. Till up about 2 - 3 feet wide to kill the grass and loosen up the soil. Amend as needed. Then plant the raspberries. Weed as needed.

2. Same as above but before planting, lay down a sheet of weed barrier. Cut out the holes for the raspberries and plant. You only need to weed what might get past the barrier.

3. Don't till up the soil but instead only dig out the holes where we're going to plant. Make the holes sufficient size, not too small, not too big. Amend if needed. Leave the grass in between because it's better to have the grass, which can be controled by cutting with a weed wacker than it is to have weeds which will have to be pulled. We have room to spare so we can space them out as far as we want to, to make the weed wacker easy to get between the plants. Besides, the tiller will make lumps out of the soil whereas doing it like this will leave the soil nice and level, which looks nicer too.

4. Plant them however, just let the weeds grow, who cares. (Personally I hate this one because I definately don't want all those weeds going to seed!)

5. Plant them however, but lay down deep mulch all around to keep out weeds. (Seems expensive and time consuming to me, I can barely keep mulch on my flower beds)

Which of these would you go with? This is an experiment of sorts too because depending on how this works out we will be adding a lot of berries, fruit trees, etc... in 2010 by the same or similar method.

If anyone has any other ideas, please tell us! :)

Thanks,

G.O.

Comments (6)

  • 17 years ago

    Its easy enough to dig out an 18 inch diameter circle, and plant a raspberry seedling in the grass. In the fall, I cut our bed of everbearing red raspberries down to 10 inches, and then mulch heavily with shredded tree leaves. Not too many weeds survive the mulch, and compete with the raspberry canes. I do have a problem with bindweed, though.

  • 17 years ago

    Personally, I use #1 method. You don't want to use a weed barrier because the plants have to replace themselves through runners, which come up several inches to as much as several feet from the original plant. This is vital because the original plants only live for 2 growing seasons max, so if you don't allow the runners to grow, you will not have any berries after 2 years. That also brings up a problem with #3. After a couple years the runners will have filled in the gaps between the original plants and you will not be able to use the weed whacker.

  • 17 years ago

    I'd go with 1. You don't need to amend the soil at all, raspberries will grow in anything. The raspberries will eventually get so thick they out compete any weeds or grass that might try to grow near them. But it's nice to give them a head start on the grass so tilling up the grass would help them get established faster. Any sort of mulch you have would be nice to keep out weeds those first few years and it helps the soil too.

  • 17 years ago

    Goodness, thank you so much for the responses!

    Well, so far there are 2 votes for #1 and one vote for #3. Truth be told, I am the one who is hoping for #3, because I'm trying to make this as little work as possible, but I have to admit, #1 is probably a better idea to help them get established. I did not think about the point that they grow by runners! Very good point! I do want the raspberries, so I guess I'll just have to put in the work. Nothing worthwhile is easy as they say. :)

    ericwi, I really liked your idea of mulching with the leaves and we'll be sure to do that when we plant the canes. I feel your pain on the bindweeds, I have a few of these at my front door every year and they drive me crazy. They grow so fast I can hardly keep up! Mine always break before I can pull the root out, arrgh!

    We spent yesterday going to our local nurseries to see what they had in raspberries. We were thinking if we found any they might be larger than the catalog ones. We found very nice large and healthy plants for a good price, but they are another variety, Tulameen. I'm told this is a late variety. I think we may go back today and get a few of these too, just to mix in with the others and hopefully stagger the crop. The nursery suggested we plant them about 3 foot apart.

  • 17 years ago

    G.O. #3 should work, infact I will be doubling my plot this Fall that way. Use a weedwacker or some tool to reduce the existing vegetation to a minimun, and and then mulch heavily. Mulching is the key and use what ever is available. I use wood chips only because I have free access to as much as I want. Tree service contractors and or municipalities are always dumping it. 3 foot is as close as you want; In two years I'm over run with canes.

  • 17 years ago

    I planted my first red raspberries this spring and they are doing great at this point. I will cut them back and mulch late this fall or on a nice day this winter. I planted a 75 ft row with plants that I got from a friend, not even sure of the variety, but know that they are everbearing and I had a sample taste last year. The best part is the shoots are free. So, if you know someone with a patch ask if they would share after they come up in the spring. I tilled up sod 4 ft. wide and mixed in alot of compost before I planted, and added 12-12-12 after they got started. this seemed to really give them a kick. I want my berries to be weed free,just me I guess, so the heavy mulch makes it easy to weed. I guess that my advise would be not to rush things. It only took me 62 years to get mine planted. Good Luck, Earl