You have piqued my interest, since I just started using the T2. The biggest challenge I would have is that, as a home user it might take me more time than you want to completely run out a tank of one mix and start using the other. Whereas if I were a pro or even if I just used a 2-stroke mower at home, I could get the job done in one day. You're welcome to email me to discuss further details: msquared77545 at yahoo dot com.

Hello all.

I'm not sure, but I think lawnmowerdan is testing the TORCO'S GP-7.

Good day.

i havnt found any yet to buy. i went to a motor cycle place where its sold but they were closed on sat! i am still very much interested in trying it . every time i use mobil 2t i am amazed by its cleanburning and preformace . it will be a tall order for thwe torco to live up to m2t in comparrison. i am the ideal tester since i will be using it in a variety of machines under difficault conditions

I will try and pick up a few pints by this time next week, and mail them off to you, lawnmowerdan and matt21. As far as 2 cycle oil is concerned, Torco made major advances in technology and quality improvements in the early 70's to which others were trying to catch up or even develop as a company such as Amsoil. Their products were used exclusively in Asian nations where heavy motorcycle and scooters were used primarily, as they still are today. Don't be too surprised lawnmowerdan if Torco doesn't exceed your expectations or even match that of Mobil's T2. I may just run my own test with the Mobil after hearing what you fellas find out about the testing. I'll need to get your mailing address from you next week, thanks to all's interest!

Hell I'd like to try this Mobil stuff everyone talks about but I have never been able to find it anywhere around here within a sixty mile radius.

The thing that kills me is, if the stuff is so good how come you can't buy it anywhere??

I refuse to buy oil over the net. I refuse to drive into Wichita to get it, nor Topeka.

Why doesn't the auto parts dealers carry it? Or the motorcycle shops? I found some Castor 927 I used but It was just oil that smelled good. I did'nt see any difference in operation or temps.

Neal

My local Auto Zone carries it for (Mobile T2) for $7.19 per quart. I'll send you some along with a pint of the GP-7 if you'd like to test it Neal? Might need some cash though for both- I was offering to send "free" the Torco for those already using the Mobil. Will cost me $12-$15 per trial sample-shipping included. I'll send you both oils for $20 shipped to you.?

What if I really like it?

My question is why can I not get it at the local places like Carquest or NAPA or Bumper to bumper and Honda dealers and Yamaha dealers etc.

Mobil must not want to market? I find that hard to believe.

What are the claims of trying these oils? What should I expect? What makes Mobil 2T so much better than my Valvoline? Is there a temperature difference of a degree or two? Less friction? Better protection? Longer life, better fuel economy? Quieter, less smoke and smell? Better smell?What is it made from? I like the synthetic idea but to expensive right now. At seven bucks a quart it would cost me a fortune to use this stuff. I pay three a quart for Valvoline and that is a bit much for me but I don't REALLY know what kind of protection I'm getting do I? Does anybody?

As far as Torco goes I've never even heard of it. I'll stick to Valvoline unless by some MIRACLE Mobil2T becomes available in my area.

So would you say I had a bias?

Just curious, Neal

Understandable that availability would weigh heavily in your choices, Neal. I haven't tried the Torco yet, but in general that brand is very highly regarded in racing circles. So is this Mobil 2T. Having only tried the Mobil so far, I can advise you to expect less smell and smoke from it for sure. I don't have a way to test wear characteristics myself, but it is generally considered the best of the best by those who can. Again, I would expect that the Torco product is probably similar. If haven't had the chance to go researching these oils much yet, but I intend to. The best single source would almost certainly be bobistheoilguy.com. They have forums just for lawn engines, motorcycles, and boats, along with lots of tech articles. There should be plenty of info there.

Here is a link that might be useful: Bob is the Oil Guy

i just finished using up 2 gallons of valoline and its ok but just ok. mobil 2t burns so clean there is almost no smell at all . a big plus since i am using a 2 stroke machine of some sort all day long (and have asthma) engines run noticably smoother and throttle responce is faster with mobil also . also my high milage machines really seem to get new life on it. i cant say enough about this stuff and its a shame its so poorly marketed. i look foward to trying the torco . many motorcycle dealers carry it. also sthil has a great new syth oil out called ultra . i could easily use this stuff if i cant get mobil any more. its not as clean burning as mobil but my nachines like it a lot. amzoil sabre is very good too but i am leary of running 100/1 -same for opti 2 . as you can see-i have a fair amount of experience with 2 cyc oil. best dino-castrol super 2stroke . best tcw3 -mercury quicksilver

Torco has pioneered racing fuels and oils for the entire racing industry since 1952. A guy name Bob Lancaster help develop an oil that would keep top fuel dragsters running nitro of course, from washing the oil film from the cylinder walls creating what was called the "black death syndrome". Big Daddy Don Gartlis was his first customer back then. Since then, they've created gear oils, engine oils, lubes, sprays, 2 cycle oil, basically an oil to protect every gearbox, transmission or engine in a racing or extreme use environment. I know there are several top quality oils to choose from now a days, but since I switched to Torco, I've never used or tested anything better as to why I should switch. Thankfully, I don't use mass quantities and price isn't a factor for me. Even if I did use commercially, I'd still spend the extra to use Torco products. I MAY try the Mobil T2 if some here find it exceptional over Torco's GP-7. Neal, how much or what's your average fuel consumption per month(mixing)? You may just find better fuel consumption when using Torco over Valvoline's oil. I would get better fuel mileage out of my modded tripple snowmobile engine than some riding buddies of mine running twins that were about 200cc's less, and my tank was a bit smaller and I'd ride a lot harder especially on the straights where they'd always eat lots of snow dust! lol. Neal, I'll send you pint of the GP-7 just for you to try. I'm sure you'll like it, but will be up to you if you want to continue to use it. I can set you up to have a case shipped to you from my dealer. He ships everday to all over the USA.

Hello all.

I spoke with a local speed shop owner this morning while I was at the track.

He can get the Torco GP-7 for me next week. All good.

Good day.