I personally don't know, but can an expert comment on the date range of when insects attack apples? Can you get away with taking the bags off on August 1st for example? Or is there insect pressure for the entire season?

Ray it sounds like you may have trees producing world record size apples. People will come from far and wide just to see your trees.

Get in touch with a good marketing company and sell the apples for $ 50.00 each in Japan.

Best of luck

Wow.....this is HUGE!...any pictures? I'd say half dinner plate for $ 50.00
full size dinner plate for $ 100.00

Dinner plate sounds like a bit of euphemism to me, but that's OK. When a variety is significantly larger than the mean, it's easy to get excited about it.

Bagging is common for folks on this forum. W/ all the opinions about different types of bags, plastic ziplocks are really the standard for low spray apple folks on this forum.

Since your dredging up posts 6 months old, I'm sure you've recognized the various techniques of cutting the corners for drainage, and cutting a slot for the stem.

You need only to determine the size of bag you need - which is really dependent on the size of your individual apples (sandwich, quart, or gallon - for dinner plate).

thisisme,
I dont know about world record size as i have seen other apples as large as these maybe i overstated size so to put in a better context they were from 1.5 pounds to 2 pounds each . as to selling them to japan i will let someone else more industrious than i am do that ;) If anyone wants any scion from these trees i would be willing to give it to them once i have all i want growing.

konrad,
Sorry didnt take any tho i may this year .

olpea,
I wasnt sure if a gallon size bag would work or if it would be too heavy and strip the apples off before they had a chance to grow.

sharppa,
around here if you bagged your apples and they are not ripe by august1st unless you enjoy worms you would need to leave the bags on....around here I have seen CM all the way into october depending on the weather.

My gallon size comment was a bit tongue & cheek. If your apples are seriously that big, you may want to look into a bagging method that ties the bag around the branch vs. the stem.

olpea,
that is something i hadnt thought of but since i have an electronic plastic sealer i may see if i can come up with a bag that i can tie around the branch and still seal out the bugs.

Sounds like Gloria Mundi apple; does the skin have a greenish-yellow color with a bronze blush?

Applenut

applenut,
it is greenish-yellow with red streaks and a conical shape....im not sure which orchard this was as my great grandfather had several as he like to try his hand at breeding them and other fruit.

Dinner plate size? Really ? Regardless I second what others are saying. Determine your bag size. Snip the corners. Attach them securely and when they are small. I use large sandwich bags with out the re enforced zip lock.
Also ,( here i go again ) I use surround wp on the trees .If i am slow to to get them bagged I spray the fruit with surround. Plum curculio can be a problem here along with the coddling moth . Bagging and surround definitly helps.There is a company that sells bags for this.As i am retiring soon i am going to investigate. I think they can be purchased from " grandpas orchard "
Since moths are attracted to light and are active at night have any of you folks tried putting a light out and studying how it could help/ I have not but I am going to.Happy gardening. Johnny

johnnyrazbrix,
I have not seen any damage from PC here and I have a few plum and peach trees... tho I watch for damage from them as some of the orchards in this area have lots of trouble with them. As to spraying those three trees , they are to old and big to mess with spraying that's why I'm going to try bagging the apples I want...I have a bug zapper in my plums and peaches but I still have to keep them sprayed tho I do kill alot of moths with the zapper.

Sharpa, re CM dates, they can be reasonably predicted by tracking degree-days (area county extension service should be able to help you on this; it varies a lot) but it's also possible to buy codling moth traps which catch the males in stickum. The males are attracted by pheromones to the traps. Once you see two-three CM in the trap it's time to take precautions, whether bagging or spraying.

The damage caused by CM is done by the larvae, which hatch on the fruit and then proceed to eat their way in and poop their way out, to put it politely. Nasty little schitters they are. The eggs take a while to hatch, and you want the poison, if used, to be effective on the larvae more than the adults, which are dying anyway. You need the bags to be on before the egg-laying begins.

Good luck,

M

Hillbilly;

Like these?
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applenut,
they are similar to them tho these look longer....but it could be them

Thanks for your input!!
Johnny

Hillbilly;

If they don't get pollinated right, they end up more squat but still huge. 99% sure that's what you've got. The leaves also tend to be huge.

Applenut

Applenut,

I dont remember what the leaves looked like. But I added Gloria Mundi to this years scion order from Nick Botner so I can have 1 to compare with it.

Hillbilly