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Dark colored Phal

13 years ago

So the phals on this log were originally saved from some arrangement made by Home depot. The one on the bottom almost died as it lost all of it's leaves but one.....you can see how it's recovered. I'm hoping those leaves get bigger, because I've never seen such a small phal.

The top one has changed into a very, very dark color...I've never seen one so dark. Even the new leave is purple. Any ideas as to why this is happening?

Comments (16)

  • 13 years ago

    Have no idea, but good 'saving!' Could it be getting too much sun? Usually a purple Phal will show more purple in their leaves when getting a lot of light. The plant (s) looks good, otherwise.

    Jane

  • 13 years ago

    Can't be too much sun. See the bottom one....they have been together like this on that log since late spring, when I put them outside. They are both getting the same amount of non-direct light. I learned my lesson about Phals and the sun the hard way...Ive got some with burnt leaves to prove it....lol.

    It turned dark and wilted like that when it was still packed in moss from the store.....I figured the new growth would be normal colored but you can clearly see it's not.

  • 13 years ago

    If you have enough Phal. Hybrids you will find some that have red tones on the leaves. One example in my collection is Dtps. Hsinying Maki 'Shot Gun'.
    I also have some plants of Doritis pulcherrima which may be in the ancestry of some hybrids, the pink flower form of the species has purple tones in the leaves whereas the alba form has green leaves.
    Apart from the comments above, I'd say that your plant isn't in the best of health, the reddish purple colour should be even and not blotchy.
    As for the sunlight I think a little filtered through heavy shade-cloth is beneficial.

  • 13 years ago

    It's definitely not in the best of health. You should have seen it before. It's getting there.

    Now does anyone have anything to add as to why the one on the bottom has such small leaves? All of those leaves have grown within the past two and a half months, so it' s pushing them out, they're just tiny.

    They do get plenty of brightness, just not direct sun.

  • 13 years ago

    It appears to be a keiki (baby plant). Mom is probably not going to make it. When it forms some roots of its own, you can pot it separately.

  • 13 years ago

    It appears to be a keiki (baby plant). Mom is probably not going to make it. When it forms some roots of its own, you can pot it separately.

  • 13 years ago

    It already has roots. I was a full sized plant that lost all of it's leaves. It was literally just the base and roots. I thought I had lost it and then it shot out the first tiny leaf, then two, then three. That's what you see there.

    Not sure what you meant by Moms not going to make it??

  • 13 years ago

    You really should research Phals on line. There's lots of great info. Your questions are important but are also basic questions regarding this plant. I m not on a computer and trying to help from my phone. Hard to type.

    What I see in your photo is a mature Phal (big leaf), with a baby plant growing from its base. The big plant is not healthy and may have grown a basal keiki (baby). Please Google 'basal keiki' so you can understand. Visit the AOS site to read about your plants. You don't need to be a member.

    Jane

  • 13 years ago

    Thanks Jane for your help.

  • 13 years ago

    So everything I've read on basal keiki's suggests that they grow out of the side of the existing plant. The bottom phal in the above pic looks like it would be one except the leaves grew out of the center of the main plant stalk where the new leaves come from, not off of the sides as in all the other pics I've seen?

  • 13 years ago

    I can't see that in your photo. Could you post another one? Did it form off the old spike? It appears to have roots so you could separate it and pot it. In your photo, the larger plant appears mounted to a post of some sort. Is this a mounted plant?

    Jane

  • 13 years ago

    Jane, there are 2 Phals tied to the same mount. The lower one isn't a Keiki, it is a another plant recovering.

    CJ, The new growth is small because the plant didn't have enough energy to make a full size leaf. They will get bigger as the plant recovers.

  • 13 years ago

    Lumpy nailed it. Thank you. That's the answer I was looking for.

  • 13 years ago

    I have a phal that lost nearly all of its roots to a fungus gnat infestation, and though it did recover, the first two leaves were tiny. Each new leaf got progressively larger as it put out more healthy roots. It also grew a keiki at the same time, which I have read is a response to stress. It's two years since then, and you can see the smaller leaves in this photo, tucked between the healthy sized leaves, as well as the keiki, which has four leaves now.

    It also has purple leaves ... it's a very strange one, I've never been able to find another like it.

  • 13 years ago

    Those are some nice looking plants Danielle.

  • 13 years ago

    I think that your two orchids will come back, it will just take some time. I also just remembered I have a third orchid that was taken out of the trash and given to me to rehab. It was extremely dehydrated and lost most of its roots, but it's slowly coming back.

    Three of its leaves look absolutely horrible (worse than the top orchid in your picture), but six months later, they have not died off. They look like leather, but they're hanging on. There are three newer leaves: two of them will be runts, they're smaller and a little bruised, but the third is growing in to be deep green and normal-sized. Like yours above, it's coming back ... it's just going to take time.

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