It's not new territory for you, but you're reaching hard with this one.

Carol Alt...yes, the actress/model/soda-spokesperson Carol Alt...invites Max "former investment banker and current organic supplement selling empire" Goldberg on her daytime TV show...and that's suddenly hard hitting journalism?

One more thing...

Do you -EVER- come here to talk about anything pertaining to ORGANIC GARDENING or do you just show up to complain about GMOs? This isn't even an exaggeration of a question...

We got the "hates everything organic guy" and the "only talks about GMOs guy" in this forum.

This post was edited by nc-crn on Mon, Dec 23, 13 at 0:15

Hey sorry bout that I had to edit this. I still could leave the source.

Source:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2012/11/02/gmos-kenyan-farmer-california-voters/1657807/

This post was edited by TheMasterGardener1 on Mon, Dec 23, 13 at 12:55

To TheMasterGardener1:

Your post on Mon, Dec 23, 13 at 10:18 appears to be not related to the Fox News Interview that is the topic of this thread?? i.e. Your lead in quote comes from your reference not from the Fox News Interview that is the subject of this thread.

To: nc-crn 7b regarding your question on Sun, Dec 22, 13 at 23:54
: "Do you -EVER- come here to talk about anything pertaining to ORGANIC GARDENING or do you just show up to complain about GMOs?"

H.Kuska comment: This forum has a search function. You can enter my last name and find all of my recent (not scrolled off) contributions (apparently there are now 56 hits).

TheMasterGardener1 has presented an opinion piece published in 2012: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2012/11/02/gmos-kenyan-farmer-california-voters/1657807/

The article was written by: "Gilbert Arap Bor, a farmer in in Kapseret,, Kenya. He also teaches at the Catholic University of Eastern Africa, Eldoret campus. He is the 2011 Kleckner Trade & Technology Advancement Award recipient and a member of the Truth About Trade & Technology Global Farmer Network."

H.Kuska comment: In reading it I got the impression that he felt that he was speaking for African farmers in general: (Africa has a rooting interest in these developments. Not only do we want basic varieties of GM corn, but we hope to have access to other kinds of GM crops plus different types of GM traits, such as drought resistance. This is the key to my continent's ability to feed itself.").

However, it appears that there is another viewpoint in Africa of GMOs. Today ("Feature Article of Tuesday, 24 December 2013") the following appeared in a Ghana newspaper:

Title: "USA Can Keep Their GMO Money!"

Columnist: Jehu-Appiah, Ali-Masmadi

http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=296081&comment=0#com

The article's author is chairman of an advocacy group, http://foodsovereigntyghana.org/about-us/

Here is a link that might be useful: link to Ghana newspaper article.

"This forum has a search function. You can enter my last name and find all of my recent (not scrolled off) contributions (apparently there are now 56 hits)."

Yes, it does...and it doesn't help your case that you want to do nothing in the organic forum except complain about GMOs and occasionally glyphosate.

The one thing you do not do...is discuss organic gardening or help others to garden organically.

The amount of anti-GMO posts you've started is astounding. There's a "Hot Topics" forum for those that want to complain about stuff rather than help others.

nc-crn 7b stated on Tue, Dec 24, 13 at 19:34 (apparently to me, H. Kuska): "The amount of anti-GMO posts you've started is astounding."

H.Kuska comment: Your use of "anti-GMO posts you've started" suggests, to me, that you mean anti-GMO threads that I started.

I checked the 56 hits.

I started 4 of the GMO threads.

I participated in 9 GMO threads started by someone else.

I started 4 Round-Up threads.

I participated in 8 Round-Up threads started by others.

I started 11 threads on other organic topics.

I participated in 20 other organic topics started by others.

A dictionary definition of "astounding" is: "adjective
1. capable of overwhelming with amazement; stunningly surprising."

http://m.dictionary.com/definition/astounding?linkid=ibc5yn&srcpage=home&site=dictwap

Oh, good grief.

May I suggest some

Lloyd

"I started 11 threads on other organic topics."

...which leads me back to paraphrasing my original question...especially noticing a lack of "positive hits" on the issue raised in the 11 threads you're very loosely filing under "organic topics"...

Do you -EVER- come here to talk about anything pertaining to ORGANIC GARDENING?

...and about all the other stuff you make threads about in the Organic Gardening forum...which has more to do with large-scale commercial farming or processed commercial food production rather than organic gardening...

Aside from misusing information you search for on Google, not knowing the difference between pseudo-science and actual science, and having very little idea how biotech or even chemical agriculture works...you have immersed yourself in the issue and pre-determined what you want to believe...only listening to what you want to hear, no matter how sketchy the source...even if it's dead wrong conspiracy crap.

Even when things are explained fully and concisely to you...if it's not what you want to hear...it turns into a battle of "winning" rather than a quest for truth...even when the only person trying to "win" is you.

Your attempts to discredit things you have NO IDEA what you're talking about is getting a little old...especially when you cling to anything you can get a hold of regardless of quality of source as some kind of counter-response that you insist must be on an equal ground even if it's coming from bad sources. Too many times when actually you get a decent source, you DON'T UNDERSTAND IT and misuse in an inappropriate situation or you don't grasp what's really going on with the given information.

This is a prime example thread... (in link)
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/organic/msg0200521113706.html?22

In this thread you have 0 idea what you're talking about...none...it is a subject you cannot follow at all. You are provided explanations yet you're only interested in winning a fight you have no idea how to battle rather than learning something. You don't want to learn...you want to complain, change the subject at many turns, and compete in some weird competition that you need to win at any cost.

There's a forum for that...it's called Hot Topics and they love that kinda stuff there...but hey, whatever...post here....there's been worse here. Maybe one day you'll actually ask about or help someone with an organic GARDENING issue in between your cut/paste Google search conversations.

This thread linked was one of my first run-ins with you, and this thread along with a slew of others really drove home how much this is a "competition to win" for you rather than a quest for knowledge. Just because you want to stay ignorant doesn't mean you should attempt to drag others down with you by flatly discrediting things you have NO IDEA OR TRAINING FOR WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT by backing your argument up with Google searched sources you insist must carry equal weight no matter how crazy/stupid/illegitimate the points they're making are...especially when it's pointed out how crazy/stupid/illegitimate they are.

Also...just to round this out on a personal note...number of GMO threads in the Organic Gardening forum started by me, 0...number of chemical agriculture threads started by me in the Organic Gardening forum, 0.

Here is a link that might be useful: Explaining P6 proteins and genetics to a brick wall

This post was edited by nc-crn on Thu, Dec 26, 13 at 4:47