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Damasks.. How big do they grow..

13 years ago

I was looking at Mme. A Labbey from Vintage and it shows that it can get big (unless I'm reading it wrong) and HMF doesn't tell how big either.. I have Leda and Vintage shows it being big too but HMF says it can 3-4 ft.

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  • 13 years ago

    Go see the damasks at the Garden of Roses of Legend and Romance in Wooster. Most of them are pretty big. You can also observe how they prune them. I don't know this particular damask, but they have several plants of Leda. I think they are in the 4-5 foot range, but it's been a while since I've been to the garden so may not remember exactly.
    Anita

  • 13 years ago

    The info at Vintage shows general growth habit and shape, but the ultimate size is not always as indicated by the scale of the image next to the people. Vintage's Damask growth habit #2 indicates a plant that grows wider than tall, and that seems to be correct, but I don't think it will ultimately be head-high without support. Pictures I've seen of Leda show plants maxing at about 3-4' in height but spread wider to about 5-6'. The only plant I saw in person was not yet mature, but was already showing the tendency to grow wider than tall because the canes started to arch out as they grew rather than continue to shoot straight up. Quatre Saisons had stiffer canes that allowed for a greater height before the weight bowed them down a bit.

    :-)

    ~Christopher

  • 13 years ago

    How big roses get varies greatly according to climate. I've never grown that particular damask, but I've had others what were over six feet tall. And I've grown others that did not make it to five.

  • 13 years ago

    Thanks everyone! AquaEyes I was looking at Leda and I did notice that she is growing more wide then up....

    Cemetery Rose there is a closer park in Columbus called Columbus Park of Roses that I want to go to.

    Rosefolly I know roses in colder climates don't grow as big as the warmer climates so you probably have monster roses :-)

  • 13 years ago

    Jessica,
    I live in Ohio and have visited both rose gardens, the one in Columbus and the one in Wooster. I was more impressed with the one in Wooster that Anita mentioned although my visits were some time ago. Anyway a visit to both sounds better than a visit to either. Have you been to Quail Crest Nursery? It is north of Wooster, has good plants, and has good prices because they use their own fuel to heat their extensive greenhouses. The gas is pumped on the property.

    Cath

  • 13 years ago

    Good news.

  • 13 years ago

    The sizes you find on HMF are what are reported by those with experience with the individual roses. If the only person stating a size experiences two feet, then HMF will state a two foot size. Until someone experiencing six feet of size with that rose shares the information with them, they won't know to give the two to six foot range for the size. Read the Comments and Reviews section. You'll find those kinds of reports frequently. So, if your experience with a rose is different from what has been reported, please share yours, along with WHERE you experienced it and any other mitigating conditions so others may also benefit from your observations. Kim

  • 13 years ago

    In my last PDX garden, my own-root 6-year-old Leda hit 4 feet tall and wide. She arched a bit and I did prune her for a shrubby slightly mounded shape. I have the impression she might have grown a bit wider without my pruning. I also believe I could have kept her at about 3.5 feet tall with harder pruning.

  • 13 years ago

    Kim thank you for reminding me to go on to HMF and share my info on the roses I grow.

    Tank thank you for starting this again I completely forgot about it.. :)

    Portlandmysteryrose when did you prune her? I am thinking closer to winter..

  • 13 years ago

    Hi, JessicaBe. My apologies for the delay in replying. I've been digging through boxes trying to unearth old photos of at least one of my Ledas. No luck. Yes, I pruned her when I pretty much prune everything--late winter. I'm aware that there are all sorts of fancy rules for pruning once-bloomers (a la John Scarman and others), but unless the rose is an EARLY bloomer like Lady Banks, I prune in Feb. in PDX. The bushes seem to bloom full enough and fine enough for my eyes and nose, and they seem to flower a bit later which would help them dodge some of the hardest of the spring showers. I have yet to collect any scientific evidence for this last statement, mind you; it's just an impression. I see you're in central Ohio. The severity of the climate might call for different tactics. In Minnesota, I pruned once-bloomers after bloom time...which was really more or less the summer. I pruned hard enough to to shape the plants and give them a fighting chance against winter winds. In the autumn, I threw leaves on the soil beneath them--a radius reaching about 12 inches beyond the dripline, carefully pushed the leaves a couple of inches away from the canes, and let the snow do the rest of the insulating. My MN pruning method worked as well as my PDX method, and it more closely matches the advised way to prune albas, gallicas, and once-blooming damasks. They flower on old wood so cutting immediately after bloom allows plenty of time for building new flowering shoots. I believe that the Huntington describes this method on its website. I'd recommend it. Leda is once-flowering. Thank you for patiently waiting while I was away from the thread.

    Carol