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New Clements Roses Ordered for Spring

18 years ago

Ha, I just ordered six roses from Heirloom for spring shipment. I got all Clements roses because I tried some Clements roses last year and just loved them. I got most of them from Heirloom last year and I know they come small but they grew fast. Was surprised how big they had gotten by fall. And I just plant them directly in the ground in my roses garden. No fussing with potting them up for me.

Now if I didn't already have roses and the only thing I had were the tiny Heirloom bands, I would feel differently. But with lots of other roses, it is not really that big a deal to wait awhile until they take off.

So I already now have in my garden- Louise Clements, Star of the Nile, New Orleans. Scarlett Velvet, Braveheart and Magnificent Perfume.

I just ordered for spring- Katerya, Memories, Orange Waves, Sunrise at Heirloom, Will-O-The-Wisp and Wonderstripe. I intend to use these to enlarge the shrub rose section of my front yard rose garden by putting them in front of the ones (shrub roses) that I already have. I am looking for lots of bloom so I choose acordingly.

This spring of 2008 will be my forth year in roses and since I did add many and expanded my gardens last spring, I am expecting to get a geat payoff for my efforts this spring!

Comments (17)

  • 18 years ago

    How did the ones you got last year do in terms of disease resistance? A couple of years ago, a local nursery had Braveheart, and I seriously considered getting it, but since I don't really have room for anything, used the fact that I knew nothing about it as an excuse.

  • 18 years ago

    I spray everything everything so I can't help you with desease resistance, sorry.

  • 18 years ago

    How exciting! That will be such fun to add some great new roses to your garden.

    I would love to hear specifically about how your Kateryna rose does for you. Seems like not many people grow it. I would love to try it myself but need to deal with what has already been ordered, transplanting existing roses, etc., first.

    So updated us after they start to grow up a little bit please and have fun with your new additions.

    Kate

  • 18 years ago

    I do not feel that the picture of Kateryna on the website does it justice. Since I ordered from Heirloom last year they sent me a Catalog and a single bloom picture of Kateryna is in the Catalog, not the shrub shot thats in the website. The shot in the catalog shows it much better.

  • 18 years ago

    Madgallica - Braveheart has beautiful blooms - dark red that look like velvet. It grows as a sprawling plant with huge thick canes. But it has almost no disease resistance. I finally got rid of it, albeit reluctantly. I sent it off to someone who may have been NYRITA, I don't remember now. Anyway, I can't see it working for you. If I move somewhere dry and with less BS, I may get it again. As far as Clements roses go, Morning has Broken seems to have decent disease resistance after some five + years. Not perfect, but I don't spray it and it's OK. Louise has beautiful blooms but isn't particularly disease resistant.

    I have or had a few Clements roses and I like the fact that he was producing them, but when I talked to him, he acknowledged that he didn't really know how the roses fared on the east coast. This isn't a knock to the roses mind you, just a reminder that the ratings of disease resistance in his catalog applied mostly to Oregon and the west, not so much out here.

    All the best.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks for the information. The nursery I found Braveheart has a distinctly organic bent, and obviously tries to carry disease resistant roses. However, since they don't actually grow any roses, their offerings tend to be a rather strange list of things wholesalers think are disease resistant. I have been keeping an eye out for Morning has Broken since it does have good eastern reports of disease resistance. For here, though, I think it is a pot plant since the same reports are rather iffy regarding hardiness.

  • 18 years ago

    I ordered Braveheart and Wonderstripe last year from Heirloom. I absolutely Love both of them. I started them out in pots but they grew and flowered fast. They were put in the ground in the fall and continued to do very well. I do spray but here and there! They did very well. I can`t wait to see them in bloom this spring. Loved the soft stripes on Wonderstripe. Lesley

  • 18 years ago

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    Here is a picture of Braveheart blooming last summer.

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    This one (above) is Scarlett Velvet.

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    And this one is New Orleans. I cut off the very top of the bloom but you can still get the idea of what it looks like.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks Rita for the pics! :o)

    I have 'Braveheart' and 'Scarlet Velvet'. I saw a few blooms from 'Braveheart' last year, but not SV, it was a very small band. Really looking forward to them this summer.
    All of the Clements roses were very pretty last year at Heirloom's Gardens. There was a bouquet of 'The Impressionist' in the Sales Cottage that blew everybody away!

  • 18 years ago

    I can't wait for them to come so I can plant them. I took some roses out of a row and relocated them to the very front because they were all bigger shrubs by now. So when the baby Heirloom roses come, I will plant most of them in the bare spots left from the moved roses.

  • 18 years ago

    All my roses from Heirloom came last week. Then I think I am going to go start planting and oh, opps, I very conviently forgot to move two small roses (from Heirloom) that are in the row I need to plant. I tried working around them but the spaceing does not work out.

    I mean, I knew this spring that I needed to move them but put it completely out of my mind. So now tomorrow I will start by relocating those two roses so I can start planting this years Heirloom Roses. Got rained out this afternoon just when I was about to start on this project.

    Can't wait to see all the Clements roses bloom, both the ones from last year and this springs new ones. I really, really like Clements roses.

  • 18 years ago

    newyorkrita - can you describe the difference in color between New Orleans and Star of the Nile? I'm ordering them both but trying to decide which bed to put each in. Not sure how true to the pictures in the catalog they are. Thanks.

  • 18 years ago

    New Orleans is a solid color and I really love the color. But Star of the Nile is the most increadible changing colors. I can't describe it, only say that you will love it.

  • 18 years ago

    newyorkrita - I have two beds and trying to decide which bed to put the two different roses. Based on knowing the color of Star of the Nile and New Orleans, do you have any advice. Also, you say that Star of the Nile changes color. On Help Me Find, it looks like it changes to a shell pink. Is that your experience?

    BED 1: 3 Aunt Honey and 3 Nicole. The new Clements roses (3 of same kind) will be planted closer to Nicole. Would Star of the Nile or New Orleans be a better color match next to Nicole?

    BED 2: 3 Aunt Honey, 3 Sheila's Perfume, 3 Earth Song, 2 Tropicana roses. The Clements roses (3 of same kind) will go in front of the Tropicana and perpendicular to Sheila's Perfume. The Tropicana is a shell pink in my yard. Would Star of the Nile or New Orleans work better here?

    Tropicana Rose: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pics.php?l=2.6073&nr=47357&js=0

    Sheila's Perfume: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pics.php?l=2.5720&nr=74849&js=0

    Here is a link that might be useful: Nicole Rose

  • 18 years ago

    I am not the one to ask about color combinations, not much good at these things. I do not have Sheilas Perfume, Aunt Honey or Earth Song and not familiar with their color. Nothing is the color of Tropicana but I have mine in my mixed colors HT bed.

    Both Star of the Nile and New Orleans are beautiful roses. I would put Star of the Nile in the most promenent spot were you could see it most.

  • 18 years ago

    thanks newyorkrita for your input.