Robert, I have EVH and love her. This is a HUGE monster of a rose. Mine is three years old from a cutting and goes up a pole of my pergola and is literally covering the whole thing, and that is 12 x 24. It will totally dwarf Westerland. Also, the colors are soft, there is nothing loud about this beauty. It could probably cover the whole trellis on your barn by itself..and then cover the barn :)

Mari

I have always dreamed of having this rose. Don't know where I'd put it...but the flowers are amazing. I agree with Robert in that I wonder why this rose is not talked about more.

Jerome

I always wanted to grow this rose, but my climate is too cold and my yard is too samall for it :(
Olga

This rose is not perfect everywhere. In my climate it balls and then doesn't repeat. I know several other people who have had to pull it out for the same reason.

Our experience with this rose in Sacramento is similar to Mendocinorose's. Not only does it ball, it hangs onto the ugly brown dead flowers. It does repeat some, but often balls again. In late summer or fall, the scattered flowers open, and they are gorgeous. Overall, I hate this rose (and there are very few that I don't love).
Anita

Maybe this is a true heat lover..mine never balls and blooms all year long.

mari

In Florida, it can be glorious. I think it's just not well-known here, and it's extreme vigor may hinder its popularity -- you have to have space for it. But it's a great rose, and I recommend it.

WOW...what conflicting reports for this rose. I would like to say that I did add this rose last year and placed it in a VERY hot, excrutiatingly HOT, area of my yard, and it took off beautifully. It grew several canes about 5-7 ft long. It showed resistance to disease, but, alas, I didn't see the first flower. It is showing NO signs of winter damage. I guess I'll keep it where it is now. I'm very excited about seeing what this rose will do. Thanks everyone.

Robert

I had a pretty big plant of it but took it out due to balling and poor rebloom. Then I heard that it needs to be a very mature plant to bloom well. I think I'll plant one at my son's house and see if it will eventually come into its own.
Linda

Every photo I've seen showed it as a gorgeous rose. lack of space and being infamous for balling is why I decided not to try it in my coastal inferno.

Our plant in the cemetery is quite mature. I sometimes wonder if plants with many thin petals do better in hot and humid climates. In Sacramento's dry, intense heat, the outside petals dry out and keep the buds from opening. Clotilde Soupert does the same thing. If I brush back the outside petals, the flowers open, but who has the time or patience?
Anita

I agree with Anita. Some roses need humidity to open.

I think Thomasville Old Gold has similar colors though they are much less full than E Veyrat. So they don't ball. TOG blooms a lot and so far mine doesn't want to be enormous.
Linda

I have two. The spring flush is almost lost to balled blooms. We do not have a warm spring. But my plants repeat and rebloom all summer long, not with the same lush display as in spring, but fairly typical of tea noisettes with lots and lots of petals. Nice vigorous rose.

Mari, I was checking out EVH on HMF, (but this can't be right: Height of up to 4' 11") and, lo and behold, someone in Germany posted that he thought it was the same as Kaiserin Friedrich, a tea-noisette, which I have been soarly tempted to order recently. But I like the EVH photos better than the KF pics. Oh, how I wish I had a bigger yard.

Anita and mendocino_rose, I didn't know that about thin petaled roses and humidity! I'm so glad to hear of something that likes our heat and humidity!!!

Thanks, Mari, for posting. How are your Parades doing?

Sherry

Sherry,
The Parades are doing great..growing like mad though not anything like EVH. Now Sherry..if you want a far more moderate climber that has somewhat the same colors look at Papi Delbard. It is a STUNNING rose that does very well down here.

Mari

E. Veyrat Hermanos: Ode to Frustration

(with apologies to the late Theodore Geisel)

It will not bloom in sunshine,
It will not bloom in gloom,
It will not bloom at midnight,
And absolutely not at noon.

It will not bloom on Monday,
Or Tuesday, Wednesday, Thurs
It will not bloom if it's "his"
Or even if it's "hers"

It will not when you are glad,
Nor will it bloom if times are bad,
I hope you haven't bought one
If so, then you've been had.

That is all I have to say on the matter.

MichaelAT

Location
Location
Location.

Sorry mine doesn't rhyme.

Sherry

hehehe

you guys crack me up!

Ronda