Rozanna, I really admire your determination to see the positive side of your situation and have no doubt that this garden will be better than anything you've had before, if nothing else because of all the knowledge of roses you've acquired along the way. I'm a little curious though as to why you've made the decision to concentrate only on noisettes. I love the variety that the chinas and teas bring to the garden, not to mention their beauty. I imagine you have a good reason for your decision and am curious what it might be. I wish you lots of luck (and stamina!) in this new endeavor of yours.

Regards,

Ingrid

Dear Rozanna,
I have followed your story with interest ever since you left Texas. I am so glad you and your SO are able to move back. And I'm sorry about your garden. I admire your ability to see the good in any situation, and you have been through a lot! I think you are smart to start small and focus on the roses you really want. I bet within a few years, you have the garden of your dreams.
Sincerely
Kathy

Ingrid - the Noisettes have always been my favorites. At one time I had every noisette available in the US and some from overseas - thankfully the imported ones I had sense enough to give away before I left and maybe I can get starts from those. There is something about the fragrance of the Noisettes that draws me in; ensnares me in their grasp and besides they were Born in the USA.

Kathy - thank you. I still have a few noisettes in the back. Madame Alfred Carrier; Blush Noisette; Nacogdoches Noisette; Jean d'arc, Princessa D'Nassau; William Allen Richardson; the Charlestonian. Not sure about the rest - the back yard seems to have escaped with less damage as the front yard. I also have a garden at the far end of the yard that is mostly old hybrid teas and miracusly that has escaped almost unscathed - they were in narrow raised beds which made them hard to use a weed eater around and of course the oaf didn't care if that part of the yard had weeds 10 ft high.

it is Natchitoches Noisette from Louisiana, not Texas...

Did you follow the thread on Silver Appleyard? It is supposed to be the same rose as Setzer Noisette....according to Joyce Demits.

Melva, you know I can't spell - yes it's the one from LA

**This time I am going to take my time and do it right so the first roses on the wish list are of course Noisettes. Maybe a dozen this year.**

So, Rozanna, which dozen noisettes are you going to acquire first?

Yes, but Rozanna, you spelled the other Natch. correctly...I have a Moulton Noisette, with your name on it...want it?

DUCHESSE - FIRST

Allister Stella Gray; Celine Forestier; Juan Desprez; La Biche; Lamarque.

Thank you Melva - now I just have to get there and get it.

Have a great time and I'm so glad that you have had this kind of opportunity! Though in wish you had been spared some the pain!

I can mail it to you..although it would be great to see you!
I have more rooted ones...not real good at labeling them..so a lot of them are mystery roses...

Rozanna - will you grow them as free standing shrubs or climbers? Up trees? Pillars? teepees? Which ones, how?

Rozanna, I know it will be fantastic when you are finished & I am thrilled that you are back in Texas where you belong.

If someone was wanting to dapple their toes in noisettes for the first time, which SMALLISH fragrant noisette would you recommend they try first?

Randy

That old rose growing fever still in your bloodstream, strong for noisettes.

Rozanna, I was thinking already about trying more cuttings this summer. We'll see what turns out. Besides Noisettes, where is your interest?

Carla

Randy, I am not Rozanna but I think you should try ....wait a minute..how small? can it be a smallish climber? what about Mary Washington, or Jeanne d'Arc?

You need some good old Crepuscule lovin. I'm not too sure if I'm going to keep mine here, it's a bit too cold. If I can figure out a way to ship it to you, I am willing to dig it up and send it to you..it's from ARE, very nice plant, it's bloomed for me, but thinly caned. I think it would enjoy being with you far more than it would with me.

If you're interested, email me.

- Max

Rozanna,
I think you will have a ball doing it right the second time. I am currently "thinning out" my group. It's important to give yourself room to work. The entire experience becomes so much more enjoyable when you aren't slashed to shreds every time you weed or prune.

More importantly, you get to design your beds and landscape your property. Remember, the planning process requires many hours of contemplation, preferably with an adult beverage to enhance your creativity.

Randy - for fragrance it's hard to beat Blush Noisette and the Charleston Noisette - they have small blooms and aren't the largest bushes out there.

And Max I would love to have Crepuscule

Carla - besides Noisettes - China's and Teas.

Harry, adult beverages really do help. I pruned off the burned part of Fortune's Double Yellow on Saturday - blood offerings were rendered to the roses and those adult beverages helped recover from it or at least modified the pain.

Rozanna, whatever you decide to do in your landscaping (over trees and fences, up pillars or arbors) I KNOW it will be WONDERFUL. I just asked the silly question trying to focus more on what will be rather than what has been.

I'm with Labrea, glad you are having the chance to redo, sorry so sorry it comes at such a high price.

I've spent time looking at all of your roses you've posted on helpmefind - love that Lamarque!

Duchesse - I think most will be free standing - roses on fences here are lots of work - perfect place for fast growing trash trees to come up. I grow Madame Alfred Carrier freestanding and a found rose much like her freestanding. Can't find anything left of Lamarque but years ago I gave a tiny rooted cutting to a co-worker with the warning - it's a house eater. He told me the other day that it lives up to the reputation and he tries to keep it in bounds - almost as a free standing shrub but it is still his favorite rose so he has promised me a trash bag full of cuttings the next time Lamarque gets whacked.

Sounds like a very exciting time, to plan a new garden centered around the Noisettes.

The Noisettes are truly special. I just love Blush Noisette. Wish I had room for more...

Isn't it great to be given a second chance to grow the roses you love? I am thrilled to be doing so I know. I have reordered many roses that I lost when I moved. The move taught me which roses I really wanted in this smaller garden, it bought out my appreciation for Austins, Antique Roses and a few other favorite once bloomers. In a big garden I had tons of room to plant anything that met my fancy, now I am forced by space to limit my selection. I find it rather endearing that I want some of my old roses back, it means I made the right choice when I picked them out the first time. Does that make sense to anyone but me??? LOL Good luck with your collection Rozanna, nothing like a clean slate to get us off to a running start.

Valerie

Rozanna, I have 3 Crepuscules......if you like, I can send cuttings...Just let me know.
Judith

Your garden will be better this time because you are smarter now. You know roses better and you know your own tastes in roses better. Good luck in the new adventure.

Rosefolly