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Will I regret this?

18 years ago

Hello all,

I hope Spring is finding everyone happy and healthy. Got a quick question: I ordered 6 own-root Austins from Chamblee, which will be here next week. They are: Abraham Darby, The Prince, Eglantyne, Portmeirion, Pat Austin, and Golden Celebration. I have numerous Austins already, all of which are doing great, however, all of mine are grafted plants. Will I regret planting own-root Austins, or given enough time, will they do as well as grafted ones?

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Wendy

Comments (12)

  • 18 years ago

    It depends on the rose. A couple of own roots were duds for me Immortal Juno and Pretty Jessica. I have many others that are doing great. Of the ones you ordered though only one, Pat Austin is own-root. It's doing better than the grafted one that I pulled out years ago.

  • 18 years ago

    It depends on the rose. It also depends on where, fairly exactly, you are in zone 6. Remember, zone 6 goes from practically zone 7 to practically zone 5. I'd say that somewhere in that range, most Austins stop performing reasonably as own-root plants. Since Lilian Austin isn't on that list, I can't say that any of them should be fine through zone 6.

  • 18 years ago

    I have an own root Abe Darby in my garden in Atlanta. This is his third year and he's 5 X 5 right now and doing great--no experience with him grafted. I have a grafted Fair Bianca that's pretty pitiful so I guess it does depend on the rose and your garden, like Mendocino Rose said.

  • 18 years ago

    The only ones I currently have from your list are Abe Darby and Pat Austin.

    The Abes are own root and were pretty vigorous in their 1st year...expect them to be even more so this year.

    Pat Austin was a late summer discount purchase last year and is grafted...she just kind of sat there after planting (big surpise), so we'll see what happens.

    Last year I planted own root Jude the Obscure and Sharifa Asma, waiting to see how those will do myself.

    good luck

    Eric

  • 18 years ago

    I live near York, PA in zone 6B. My Abe Darby and Golden Celebration are both own root. Last year AD was cut to about 5 inches due to winter kill. He recovered quickly and grew to about 5 feet.
    GC seems a bit hardier. Cut only to about 3 feet. Also recovered quickly.
    Last spring we had a freezing snow in mid April. Cold temps below freezing (about 16 degrees at night)lasted for 1 week. Very bad for all my roses except the tough once bloomers. I haven't prunned these two this year yet, but just a glance did not see any black canes.

    Hope this helps.

    Barbara

  • 18 years ago

    Thank you all for taking the time to answer. :) I'll try and be optimistic and hope for the best.

    As far as "exact" zone, well, I'm in Howell, which is closer to zone 7 than zone 5.

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    Wendy

  • 18 years ago

    Wendy is not far from me, z6 borderline 7.

    I haven't grown any Austins own root, but they should be fine, Wendy. You'll have to report back and let us know!

  • 18 years ago

    Have grown both Abraham Darby and Golden Celebration on their own roots and they easily achieved 5 ft. their first year. This was in zone 8/bordering 7 with a very long growing season, however. Am not getting the same results with Tamora, however-- Austin roses are pretty diverse and they do vary in their degree of vigor.

  • 18 years ago

    I bought The Prince and Golden Celebration on their own roots last year. The Prince did very well, was 3 feet by 2 feet and flowered a lot. Golden Celebration took a long time to get going, and then grew two 5 foot long canes. I think GC didn't get enough sun where it was so I'm moving it this year. Both seem to have survived the winter although I haven't pruned yet so I can't say for sure.

  • 18 years ago

    Thank you all so much. I'm getting pretty optimistic now, and can't wait for them to arrive. :)

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    Wendy

  • 18 years ago

    I have both grafted (multi & Dr. Huey) and own root Austins (as well as other types) - this will be the third year for some. I have noticed that while both are doing fine the own root are not as robust. Not just Austins but all my own root roses, I have read on this forum that it takes a while for the own root to catch up to the grafted, but once that happens the two will be indistinguishable.

    Lisa

  • 18 years ago

    I have both own root Austins (from J&P) and grafted (from DA). The grafted ones take off a bit faster, but the own roots are doing well and will eventually catch up. And then you don't have to worry about suckers.