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Replacement for Buddleia--maybe...

18 years ago

I planted three buddleia in the spring of 2006 and they came back beautifully last year (by the way, I am on the border of the hearty zone). It is still early enough for them to come back this year, but the hope is starting to fade as the days pass and no new foliage. I don't want to plant them again knowing they are "ify" in my zone (I knew that when I bought them), but what in the world could I plant in place of them? It has to be pastels (blues, pinks, purples) and my hope is that it blooms all summer like the buddleia (full sun, of course). I can't come up with anything. I know the shrubs well in my zone, but maybe something is slipping my mind...

Comments (13)

  • 18 years ago

    How about Weigela?

    Here is a link that might be useful: Weigela

  • 18 years ago

    I have a grouping of five Red Prince already in the front--my color scheme in the front is red, yellow and white (I should throw in some orange), back is pastels--blue, pink, purple and white...

    Thanks for the suggestion, I love my Weigela!

    Keep them coming!!!

  • 18 years ago

    How about Wild mock orange, Philadelphus lewisii?

    Or if not that, a Lilac (Syringa)?

    Here is a link that might be useful: Philadelphus lewisii

  • 18 years ago

    I have a Minnestoa Snowflake, which by the way I am hoping it blooms this year. If not, I suppose I will root prune it (I learned that tidbit of info from this website). I hope I don't sound ungrateful, but I would like smaller shrubs with the pastel colors. I have/had a Peacock, Purple Emperor and Adonis Blue buddleia. I don't remember the name of the collection, but it was with the smaller 4'-5' varieties. I'm thinking there will be no replacement for the effect I was going for, and had, but I did want to pick all of you well seasoned gardeners' brains in case I was overlooking something...

  • 18 years ago

    I don't think you're ungrateful. But you know I only have so many ideas for Northern gardens!

    If you don't get much response here, perhaps ask the same question on your regional forum.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Wisconsin forum

  • 18 years ago

    Blushing Knockout rose? It blooms a sweet, soft pink (none of the KOs come in purple (yet)), for an even longer period than buddleia. It may have a lot of cane dieback in winter in z5 but, grown on its own roots, ought to recover and bloom well at 4' or so. In NoVA, it has almost no winter damage and is 6' tall or even taller.

    I routinely lost buddleias in z5, but ended up SPing all the rest because the seedlings started to worry me. I'd heard this plant could be ecologically invasive in other areas but I never thought I'd see so many seedlings in a place where the mature plant is only marginally hardy!

    Daphne caucasica 'Summer Ice' might be worth trying.

    Not sure if any of the peegee hydrangeas stay short enough for your spot, but the flowers on mine turn lovely soft colors.

  • 18 years ago

    Hey esh_ga, I had no idea there were regional forums, thanks!

    I looked up the knockout roses and they look great!!! No blues or purples, but I could use a pink. I've seen that RadSunny variety and wondered what it was. I've kind of misled everyone, when I think of pastels, I think of the colors blue, purple and pink, but not necessarily pale. I still like vibrant colors.

    I don't know, I'll either just get some more buddleia or rethink the whole flower bed...

    Thank you eveyone for your help!!!

  • 18 years ago

    Will Vitex Agnus-castus work in your zone? White Spires has white blossoms, and several cultivars (including something or other Shoals) are a rich blue. These bloom mid to late summer, and butterflies love them.

    LynnT

  • 18 years ago

    How about spirea?

    Karen

  • 18 years ago

    Some lilacs are repeat-blooming.

  • 18 years ago

    I believe Caryopteris is hardy for you. If so, you want one of the green leaved ones, not the yellow/gold-leaved ones, I would think. You get summer, blue flowers, not flashy, but nice.

    Nikko Blue hydrangea (maybe TOO blue) or one of the other blue flowered hydrangeas that stay smallish might work, if hardy. If your soil is more alkaline, then you could try the Nikko Blue (it stays blue) and use one of the pink -in-alkaline-soil ones for the pink.

    A spirea might give you the pink flowers, and can be cut back to the ground in spring if it tends to be too big - that usually keeps it small enough.

  • 18 years ago

    Okay guys, I truly appreciate all of your ideas and here are my thoughts on each of them:

    Lynn--Vitex Agnus-castus: Great suggestion, but it is only hearty to zone 7, I'm in zone 5.

    Karen--Spirea: The only spirea I really like, okay love, is the Vanhoutte and I have two of those in the front yard. They look fabulous in their natural form and if I'm not mistaken, most other varieties of spirea need constant pruning and shaping.

    bboy--lilacs are great, can you give me a "for instance" on the repeat bloomers?

    dibbit--got the caryopteris 'Dark Knight' for a large garden on a hill that has continual blooms throughout the seasons; the caryopteris being my late summer, early fall specimens. Love it! Love, love, love hydrangeas. So much so I broke my "rule" of not planting the same thing, even if it is a different variety (the only other thing I've used in other places is sedum, can't really have too much of that). I have three Annabelles in the front between four yews and I have a large garden out back with an Aesculus parviflora surrounded by 'Endless Summer' hydrangeas.

    I'm still holding a tiny bit of hope out that my buddelia will come back, but definitely not holding my breath. I'm still open to suggestions and looking forward to some followup on the ideas that are potentials that you've already given me.

    Again, thank you so much for taking the time to help a fellow gardener...

  • 18 years ago

    Start with this.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Late Season, others and Dwarf