Through taller plants, from which is spills out.

Could you post a picture? I planted a Veilchenblau last October without even knowing anything about it, just because it was on sale, then I researhced it and now I know it can get very tall and big but until now I have no experience with large roses so it could be great if somebody posts pictures with this plant and give me some ideas how to care about it and how to make it grow so it can flower profusively. I like its old fashioned flowers and I am happy with my purchase, just I do not know how to set it. How tall does it get in your garden and how tall I can expect it to grow in one year? Thank you very much in advance.

Also, I forgot to ask in my previous message if this rose repeats for you. I have read that it is a one time bloomer but sometimes it repeats. What are your experiences.

I grew it first as a climber and then as a bush. It got far too big for its trellis, so I made it into a BIG bush.

Mine hasn't repeated.
Mine arrived a year when I had no place for it, so I planted it on the west side of a mature hackberry (horrible tree) in between to massive anchoring roots. It held on for two years and competed with the hackberry roots. Then it started to grow and hasn't stopped.
17 year locusts were all over it and its tree.
Last summers drought did it no favors.
It chugs along and is much appreciated.

I don't have a picture of mine secondary to a computer crash but I never had a picture of it as a climber that was BC (before computers) and then as it got far too big for my trellis, a 6-ft tall, 4 x 4 structure, which was going to be destroyed if I did not move it, I moved it to a location where it come be a big bush and it was A HUGE BUSH, think Buick. During the Katrina era, it developed RRD and it is now in Heaven with all the other RRD victims.

When I had to have an old oak taken down, I kept a 20' trunk with two 'arms' just so I could plant a big rambler up it. V. is the one I chose, but he is still pretty small (went in as a band last year). On the other side I planted climbing America, which doesn't get nearly as large but is a repeat bloomer. I will probably add a clematis to V. for late summer booms. Count V as a one time bloomer.

anyone try to root a cutting of Veilchenblau? It suddenly occured to me that I could take cuttings from the VB I gave my friend last year, if it is the kind that roots easily.

I got cuttings from a friend last October and most of them rooted and are flourishing. I'd say easy.

I'm glad to hear V.'s a tough rose, as mine are going to go into various more or less difficult situations. The plan is to put them at the edge of the woods and to grow through a tall hedge: I'll see what happens. I've heard V. as a Multiflora rambler doesn't like alkaline soil, which is what we have. It's true my ramblers are mostly Wichurianas and I haven't had many Multifloras to test this theory against. But I had 'Goldfinch' and am on the verge of losing my last plant of it.

Melissa

I started mine on an 8.5 ft rebar teepee. It outgrew this in its first season and climbed into the holly next to it..I'd say it's about 25 ft tall now. It keeps going.

Robert

The thing about Veilch is that if you ever prune it down to a bush shape and move it, it will not climb again (or least ways it did not for me) and can be grown as a bush. I have found that true of several climbers such as New Dawn, MAC, etc. Even Mermaid has learned to be a "reasonable" hulk of a 6-ft tall shrub.

Patricia, I've had that happen, too, with New Dawn. And I pruned Yolande d'Aragon to about three feet when I moved all the roses out of a certain area of my garden. It used to grow as a tall spider armed thing, and has never done so again, not yet at any rate. The same is true for Pierre de Ronsard. I grow it as a big round shrub and it never tries to climb.

It seems odd to me that this is so. Not scientific.

I wonder if the same thing is true of Veilchenblau's cousin Violette? My purple multi-flowered ramblers were all languishing by the fence, choloritc and mildewed, so I removed them. Violette had once done well for me in another spot, so I got a new plant and put it in the old spot. The trouble is that there are now lots more plants growing in that area. I'm hoping I can keep it to shrub like proportions. Otherwise I don't know where I'll put it. Somewhere else, that's where. I love this rose.

Part of mine is a shrub, part of it climbs and apple tree, and part of it is on an arbor. ( it's all over the place)

triple B - I have three rooted cuttings from last summer. It roots super easily! Mine are from a huge, rambling plant at an old Victorian home in town. The owners said I could take cuttings, they had no clue what it was called. All three that I did took. I'm pretty sure it's Veilchenblau. If it isn't, then it's one of the other purples that looks very similar.