Please help me plan my rose bed...looong

18 years ago

First of all, please excuse the dog toy and dog poop in this picture... :)

I'm having another tier of raised bed put in this bed. It'll be half moon shaped like this bed only against the back of the fence. There used to be a 25 foot Bradford Pear next to Don Juan and it fell over in last Spring's many rain/wind storms we had. The stump/roots (the big pot is sitting on the stump) are left and so I can't do much at all in that area. So the raised bed will stretch from Don Juan on the far left to the right side of the bed to cover the stump.

This will give me lots more room for roses--what else?

I lost alot of privacy when that tree fell, but gained alot of sunshine for my roses, so that's good. I'd like to put a couple of monster climbers against the back fence, along with some clematis, and hopefully regain some privacy. I'm still considering color schemes. New Dawn is planted to the far right and toward the front of the bed and will grow up the taller right side of the fence. In front is Tahitian Sunset (no BS believe it or not), Ingrid Bergman (BS victim), and Julia Child (she has some BS too) on the far right.

I'm thinking of replacing Don Juan (BS factory this year) and Ingrid Bergman. This would leave me with Tahitian Sunset (peach color) and Julia Child (yellow) and New Dawn (pink/white). Should I replace Don Juan with another red climber, like Cl. Cramoisi Superieur or...maybe a Westerland where DJ is and a multi peachy pink climber (maybe Aloha/Kordes or Portlandia) on the right to blend with New Dawn. I'm drawn to peaches, yellows, multi's--warm colors. I love looking at the beautiful antique light pinks, but this bed faces the west and I'm afraid they would all look a little shabby and burned in the heat. I hope New Dawn can hold her own in this bed.

I'm trying to make my way over to the antique rose world, but have collected quite a few ht's and floribundas and can't bring myself to get rid of them all quite yet. Julia Child is usually so healthy and I'm amazed that Tahitian Sunset is still clean standing in front of a totally BS infected Don Juan and next to another totally infected Ingrid Berman.

My goal is to create a rose bed that can take the Dallas heat/humidity--and I want it to look gorgeous and smell good, too. :) Is that asking too much?

I would be sooooo grateful for your input/ideas. Thanks for reading this far!

Denise

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buford
18 years ago
I'm not sure about colors, but since it's a deep bed, I'd do layers. Climbers in the back, maybe a rose tree or too in the middle and shrub roses in front.
brhgm
18 years ago
How about Rainbow, a Moore mini. Mutabilis is lovely and very heat tolerant. Clair Matin is very fragrant. Danae and Felicia would work well. Even Penelope would work with your plantings.
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dmg2242
Original Author
18 years ago
Buford--I love the idea of including tree roses in the middle of the upper tier. I actually saw a couple of Frankly Scarlett "18 tree roses this afternoon. They also had a couple of 36" Double Delights. Are there antique tea tree roses? Might be pretty to put a ground cover rose between the tree roses to hang down from the upper tier.

brhgm, I saw a Mutabilis today and it had a few blooms on it, very pretty. They had Penelope, too, but it wasn't blooming. Someone else recommended Mutabilis, hmmm.

Thanks so much for the ideas!

Denise
ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
18 years ago
I have no personal experience but read somewhere that the stems of tree roses can burn in the heat. Mutabilis is a great rose but can get very large. Carnation is a pretty, smaller China that should do well in the heat. Duchesse de Brabant is a lovely tea rose for a hot climate. Cl. Lady Hillingdon, also Reve d'Or, Celine Forestier and Cl. Pinkie are all beautiful climbers.

Ingrid
dmg2242
Original Author
18 years ago
Ingrid--I love all of those roses. I keep hearing such wonderful things about Duchesse de Brabant. I need to see how big she gets. I already have a Crepuscle climber. Isn't Reve d'Or very similar in color? Cl. Lady Hillingdon is gorgeous too.

Thanks, I'm starting to dream about roses. Guess that's a good thing though. :)

Denise
ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
18 years ago
Denise, Duchesse de Brabant can be kept pruned to a reasonable size. Crepuscule is more apricot than Reve d'Or and Lady Hillingdon is more gold. I don't know what you feel about Austins but Spirit of Freedom has huge, scented soft pink blooms with about 200 petals, a truly gorgeous rose. Some of the other larger Austins will also make great climbers in a warm climate.

Ingrid
carolfm
18 years ago
Denise, how big is this bed? Some of the recommended roses get very large and would cover a vast area all by themselves! About how much space (how many feet) will you have for new roses? Roses tend to get very big in the south and "everything is bigger in Texas" :-)

Carol
buford
18 years ago
dmg, I have Double Delight and Frankly Scarlett in bush form. DD would need to be sprayed to work, it blackspots horribly if not sprayed and doesn't bloom well if it gets BS. I'm not sure about FS, I just planted them last year. It has a nice red color which turns almost fluorescent looking as it ages. I have it alternated with Moondance for a red/white look. Except I lost one of the Moondances and I have to replace it.
jbcarr
18 years ago
Unless you were to extend your poles vertically somehow, I doubt a rose would give you anything like the privacy of your tree. How big is the space? One of the bushes like Mutabilis could easily get big enough to occupy it all by itself.