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Another wood chips question

19 years ago

I've read the pros and cons of using wood chips as a mulch. I've always used the bagged stuff from Lowes/Wal Mart and liked it just fine.

I can get a free load delivered from the electric company, and they're in the process now of major tree trimming. (They were trimming my neighbor's trees and I asked for chips and they said just call and they'll deliver, but I couldn't have what they were chipping then)

My question is just an ongoing concern I've had: am I risking a disease/bug invasion by using chips from unknown sources? It seems to me since they're now trimming fresh trees, this stuff ought to be fairly fresh, but I was talking to a lady in the store one day and she'd had a load delivered by the city (we put our yard waste in separate bins, so this might not always be fresh trimmings), and she swears it gave her a centipede invasion. (I didn't even know we had centipedes in the midwest...I've never seen one)

So I've always been paranoid about it since she said that.

Is my paranoia justified or not? I'd really like to get a free load, use some of that dye (link below) and use it in flower beds. I use cured straw in my veg. gardens and then put that in the compost pile in fall.

The chips would be mostly for decorative effect and I guess to conserve moisture. I know the debate of whether or not it robs nitrogen, I'm just worried about bug and disease.

Thank you.

Here is a link that might be useful: BarkBrite mulch dye

Comments (10)

  • 19 years ago

    Spray painting your old mulch? What will they think of next?

    You can get disease/bug invasion from any wood that you buy, including bagged mulch from landscaping companies. Many of our neighbors had termite infestations a few years ago, somehow we escaped. We had several different exterminators come to inspect our house but none found any evidence of termites. But many of our neighbors were advised by their bug companies to remove any unnecessary wood like lanscape timbers, railroad ties from landscaping and to avoid wood mulch. They said if you insist on using it, bagged mulch probably is less risky than bulk mulch and never spread the mulch too close to the foundation of the house.

    Karen

  • 19 years ago

    I got mine from a tree trimming guy, and from our city. Never had a problem with either bugs or nitrogen loss. Here is a link to my newly built lasagna bed from last year.

    http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/wisconsin/msg0415063014489.html

    Everything grew great, with no synthetic fertilizer.

    Lee

  • 19 years ago

    For some reason I just assumed commercial bags of mulch was "clean."

    Isn't that spray paint for mulch crazy? I wish they had purple.

    Lee, that bed is GORGEOUS. I love seeing its evolution, really spectacular.

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks!! Hopefully this year is even better. I plan on adding more woodchips from our city, since the ones from last year have decomposed quite a bit. I do occaisonally? throw some starbucks coffee grounds right on top of them to help with nitrogen. Also when I fertilize the yard with soybean meal and alfalfa pellets, I also do the flower beds. Great thing using organic fertilizer, you can spread it anywhere and everywhere!!

    Lee

  • 19 years ago

    If you provide an environment they like insects of all kinds will show up, whether you have wood chips, shredded leaves, rocks, or anything else, so it is not the material is not what they come in it is the environment you make that attracts them.
    Centipedes, millipedes, sowbugs, pill bugs, and many others are digesters of organic matter so if you put organic matter down they will come and there is no cause of concern about them being there. They are only a problem with people that do not understand what nature is and does and how nature works. People that want a bugless world, which if that happens means the end of us.

  • 19 years ago

    I can say that we do have centipedes in IL. I wish we didn't.

    There is the possibility of spreading disease and bugs through wood chips. But the possibility exists no matter where the mulch comes from.

    From an organic perspective, we strive to make our soil and plants as healthy as possible so that when a pest appears the plants are healthy enough to resist disease and the soil has a diverse enough microherd to keep any one pest from dominating.

  • 19 years ago

    "I can say that we do have centipedes in IL. I wish we didn't."

    I didn't know we had lizards in IL either until one ran through the house. My DH thought he was seeing things until we found it dead a few days later. It had a little stab mark in its chest, so obviously one of the pets got it. :(

    For a year we thought it had to be someone's escaped pets. Lizards in Illinois? Then they were rehabbing a 100-year-old house up the hill and found the foundation area just full of them. LOL, I still remember the screams of grown men. They estimated tens of thousands. (I have no idea how correct that is)

    Kimmsr, your paragraph ought to be sent to every gardener, every spring as a reminder. Bugs are just a part of it all.

    My neighbor found a snake the other day and I'm pretty sure she's blaming me and all of my gardening. She was very upset. I said "Well, maybe that's why I've yet to see a rodent around here. Hope he keeps up the good work."

    I got the dirtiest look. LOL.

  • 19 years ago

    The Ohio DNR is making a big push for awareness for the Emerald Ash Borer. They are running ads about not transporting firewood very far, and to use and buy locally. I've always wondered about this when it comes to bagged mulch. I'd rather deal with local bulk mulch and the bugs that are already here, rather than risk importing a non native species.

  • 19 years ago

    Wood from the electric company would potentially be the worst because they cut diseased wood with no thought of quarantine. Google Âdisease from mulch and you will find a general agreement that a long, hot composting period lessens your risk. Then you have to decide the risk/rewards in your case.

  • 19 years ago

    The "safe" answer is: know what pests are in the area your wood chips are coming from and whether those pests would be a problem if they landed on your property. Of course, no one knows all of this with certainty so you have to make a judgment call.
    I use lots of wood chips but almost all have come from on site so nothing new would be getting introduced. I did get a load or two from outside but had no problems. I also tend to not get to my wood chips until the pile is at least several months if not a year or more old. Maybe that has helped? I don't worry about this much but if the nasty beetles that just showed up in Staten Island and previously in Manhattan(a mere few counties away) make their way over here I will have to be more cautious in accepting other's wood chips in the future.
    BTW, I've seen dyed wood mulch in many improbable colors so purple is not out of the question.