I always go little closer. You don't want the cuts to be flush, but those will take a long time to look right.

first photo = definite 3

second photo (from left to right) = 2, 3, and 3 (best I can tell from that picture)

third photo = 3

Pruning cuts should be made immediately outside the branch bark ridge and branch collar.

You've left stubs. "Pruning cuts should be made immediately outside the branch bark ridge and branch collar." (per Brandon)

See images in the attached link.

Nice pictures whaas. They allowed us to give you some proper advice!

Here is a link that might be useful: Lookee here

What if I told you that these cuts where either A) made or B) supervised by an ISA certified arborist that is employed by a well known company in my area?

This is the second time they where out as the proper clearance wasn't made for other trees and structures.

I'm dumbfounded that they came back out and made several poor cuts. I even emphasized that many stubs had to be cleaned up due to the hack job a neighbor did on the trees while it was an emplty unsold lot.

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't off base here.

Thanks for the feedback guys. BTW these are native Tilia americana that range from 40-50' tall.

Unacceptable.

Dan

An ISA certification means they are serious about trying to know what they are doing, but, unfortunately, it doesn't always mean they do know what they are doing (at least on everything). I see ISA-arborist mistakes frequently (some pretty serious), but they are usually not quite as "dumb" as the non-ISA-"arborist" mistakes (not the quotes in this case). I would give feedback to the owner of the company. If he corrected the situation (including training or firing), I would consider using them again. If not, I'd shop around next time. This is not acceptable for a pro.

IME most folks want to know and will correct the mistakes of their staff.

Dan

i would complain..

and i would NEVER call them back unless supervision corrected the situation ...

i will speculate ... its was done by a novice who insisted on cutting the whole from above ... that is most likely exactly where the saw fit in the crotch from above..

the branch should have been shortened to ease working on it... then it should have been cut from below.. upward .. pushing the stub up to ease cutting ...

thats how i do it anyway ... any comment dan???

then.. when i look at the 3 cuts within a few feet.. i start to wonder why that whole branch wasnt taken off ... but we dont have a picture to come to any conclusion .... and going back up to look at the pic ... how it ended up with 2 branches at the end of the stub ... looks like a prior improper pruning ... second pic ...

what kind of tree is this.. ???

ken

"what kind of tree is this.. ???"

"Thanks for the feedback guys. BTW these are native Tilia americana that range from 40-50' tall."

That's so sad, whaas. Please follow up on this with some educational material to these people. Your images should speak volumes to the owner of this company. Thanks for posting this.

Kinda puts a dent in the ISA certified arborist credentials, doesn't it?
Mike

No it doesn't. Most likely an employee and 99% will make it good.

Dan

Making it good doesn't change the fact that it wasn't done right the first time. ISA certification carries certain responsibilities. Education and supervision of employees is under that umbrella.
Still a dent in my book. Making proper pruning cuts is elementary.
Mike

using hand pruners/pole pruners on cuts like that can work better than saws.

Apparently I got the other 1% as its still not resolved.

When I see hack jobs in my neighborhood, I'm always curious who or what company's do them. I'm constantly amazed at what is done in the world of trees. I see more flush cuts done around here.

At least with stubs, they can be redone.