This got to be the best suggestion I heard since I join this forum and believe me I read a lot of the comments.

Good job. Thank you. I was just thinking about how to keep up with the fresh gas since I am not a full time person. one tank last for long time.

I like the idea but I can't seem to get a hose down into the tank of the newer vehicles. And I mean MY vehicles, not the neighbor's.

Does "Georgia credit card" ring a bell with anyone? I havent thought of that in years.

I tell people to take their fill can with or without 2 cycle mix and dump it in their car on the first weekend of the month, then refill the can with fresh. Fill the car/truck at the same time. That way you keep fresh fuel in the fill can, you don't waste any and its safer then syphoning.

Of course you still need to either completly drain, not just run out of fuel, your equipment at seasons end or use fuel stabolizer to protect carb and fuel system. Just running the engine until it dies will leave some fuel in the carb.

Just put some stabilizer in your gas can!

Sounds like a stupid idea, unless you're running 93octane in your car. You should be running high octane stuff for your two-stroke engines, and might as well in your 4-stroke, too.

While I don't care for the idea either, my lawn equipment runs on 87 octane 90% of the time. The only exception is when I have extra mixed fuel from my old sled hanging around and thats normally 93 octane. The weed wacker loves the sled oil.

Anyone know how long the gas remain good with/without stabilizer? If I get 91 octane does it last longer? any suggestion on what stabilizer is good.

By the way, anyone have experience on Craftsman 2 cycle oil?

Without stabilizer you are looking at 1 month to have it be perfect, but it will work alright as old as 6 months or so. With stabilizer you are looking at a year or so. This is assuming proper storage (good container, fully closed, not in the sun etc).

Craftsman 2 cycle oil is just like any other cheapie oil, except you pay big money for it. I run castrol snowmobile oil, its good stuff, and it's what I have on hand. The weed wacker loves it, and so do my saws.

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_usa/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/j/jjj.pdf

my lawn tractor, snowblower, leaf blower, and lawn mower use the manufacturer's recommendation of 87 octane. it would seem if it were necessary to use a higher octane this would have been recommended by the manufacturer.

I'm not sure how you extract gasoline from a modern car. It would be great to use the cars tank for emergency gasoline, (ex: generator fuel in a power outage), but the anti siphon traps make it impossible.

Anyone know a safe method? I guess you could tap into the schrader valve on the fuel rail and let the fuel pump dispense your gas. I'm not sure what fitting you need to do this.

Anyone have a strategy?

Go buy fresh gas from the gas station when you need it. Buy a gallon or 1/2 gallon at a time if you don't need much. Pour the remaining quantity in your vehicle.

Repeat the above steps when you need more gasoline.

Buy the octane suggested for engine. Running high octane in an engine that doesn't need it is foolish unless you like spending money for no reason.

For what it's worth, I don't use stabilizers and I use gas that's more than 6 months old, or older, quite frequently. I've never had a problem. My generator sat for the last 11 months, full of gas, and I used it about a week ago during a power outage. I've used 2-stroke mix that was well over a year old in my weed whacker and chainsaws and no problems with them either. My push-lawnmower sits for months at a time and it will fire up with 1-2 pulls.

Maybe I'm rolling the dice, but I've been doing pretty well for the last 15 years or so.

It would be easier and less messy to just use stabil in your containers. however, if you want to transfer gas, this pump works well. I used it to drain the gas in my 69 camaro when I replaced the old fuel tank with a new one.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00947647000P?vName=Automotive&cName=Tools+%26+Equipment&keyword=mitivac

Thanks Den69rs96. Looks like what I had in mind. Now I'll just have to see if I can get hoses down into my vehicle tanks, (thanks,Weed Cutter). I always use Sta-bil, and rarely run out of 'fairly' fresh gas. I just wanted it to have on hand for those rare occasions when I get caught short. And like Davefr says, it would be great
during a power outage since sometimes the gas stations
don't have power either.

Let me get this straight, you guys are jamming tubes/ pumps/ siphoners and all kinds of other cr@p down the gas hole of a 30000 to 40000 to 50000 dollor (speculation) car/ truck introducing dirt and debris not to mention the possibility of damaginging a 2000 dollor fuel pump or sending unit/ or emmisions doo-hickey, in order not to run old gas in a 300 dollor lawn mower?
Yes, the sarcasm is intentional.

YUP ! But I'm going to do my
best to keep the crud down to less
than O.25 inches.

There's a thing called a fuel filter that blocks dirt from getting to the engine. Don't kid yourself if you think your gas tank is completely free of dirt even though you haven't put a tube or siphon down into the tank. Even if a little dirt gets in, the fuel filter will stop any dirt that gets past the sock filter on the fuel pump. Actually running your car around empty does more damage to your fuel pump and than any dirt introduced by a siphon could since there is not enough fuel to cool the fuel pump. Its not really a big deal to stick a tube down the gas tank. Then again, none of my cars have $2000 fuel pumps

Lemme tell yall what. This sumer I gits up reel erly
on a sarday caus the boys is gonna pik me up to go afishin.
But momma says I aint goin nowhere till the grass gits cut.
I figur, shucks, that aint no problem. So I heads down
to the barn and grabs my gas can to fil up my ol lawnboy,
but the can is MTl!!! Turns out my worthles, no count
brother in law borrowed it and brings it back MT!!
(hey, I gess I gotta give him credit for at least bringin
it bake). Well, a trip into town to git gas is gonna
take 45 minits, and thats if I don't stop at the ol
waterin hole. An then I still gotta cut the grass !
Turns out my ol pickemup truk has a full tank, but I
gots no way of gittin it out. Ifn I had one of them
new fangled lil gas pumps, I coulda gone fishin !
(Turns out the boys rally got into the bass and had
a hole lotta baer and good food and even met up with
sum fun luvin gals, and had a high ol time,
*WITHOUT ME !!* wile I sits on my back steps starin
at my MT gas can. Yall gonna tell me to git a new
brotherinlaw.....bin thinkin bout it.

I've had no problem with 6-8 month old gas, but I make sure never to get alcohol (ethanol/MTBE) blended gas, as it attracts water and can go skunk in a month or so. I know its different in each state, but in Iowa the stations are required to label the alcohol content in their fuel. 87 octane most times does not have alcohol, at least in Iowa.

I also only buy from good stations like BP or Phillips/Conoco.

I use stabil in the fall/winter for any leftover lawn equipment 2-cycle mix, and stabil in the spring for the leftover straight gas for the snowblower. Never had a problem with this regiment.

Hey guys, this posting is taking all the business from mine!!! I ask the question about gas stablizer Sta-Bil on my posting and I was wondering why I only have 3 response after 3 days!!!! You guys are all here!!! Hey please response to mine also on the compatibility on Sta-Bil with different 2 cycle oils I just bought a brand spanking new blower and am waiting for more user experience before I really start fueling up.!!!!! Pleaseeeessss?!!!

As of getting gas from the car, I am going to buy the pump from Sears as suggested from this posting, I have a 17 year old car and I can care less of whether I might introduce a little dirt into the tank and the filter is going to filter out anyway. What make you think the gas from the pump is that clean anyway!! Too low octane might give you problem, too high octane can hurt the engine too? I don't think so. As long as it does not pink, itsn't it ok?
Thanks

Quote from stripped_threads "Let me get this straight, you guys are jamming tubes/ pumps/ siphoners and all kinds of other cr@p down the gas hole of a 30000 to 40000 to 50000 dollor (speculation) car/ truck introducing dirt and debris not to mention the possibility of damaginging a 2000 dollor fuel pump or sending unit/ or emmisions doo-hickey, in order not to run old gas in a 300 dollor lawn mower?
Yes, the sarcasm is intentional."

As has been mentioned, a little debris in the tank (the amount you might introduce while siphoning) doesn't matter. More importantly, how many of us willing to do this have a car in the 30-50k range? My car was $5,000 when I bought it 3 years ago, it's worth about $3,000 now. And if I was to siphon gas out of anything, it'd be out of my $250 ford ranger. Also, what fuel pump costs $2000 ? The most I've ever spent is $200 on a fuel pump, and I've heard of some (with computers on board) costing as much as $400 new. Maybe if you buy a 2007 lexus fuel pump from the dealer it would get near $2000. You got me there if it's true, I've never even seen a lexus dealer.

Also, unless you are jamming a pipe (as opposed to a tube) down into your gas tank, there is no way to damage anything. Car's aren't as delicate as some think.

Check around your neighborhood for an old fart like me. He'll probably be on oxygen. Ask him for one of his discarded oxygen hoses (they're about 1/4" diameter. They slide right down your filler tube. Cut the tube long enuff so that it'll have a loop before getting to your gas can. When you start the siphon you can see the gas coming & drop the end into your can without enjoying the aftertaste.
OR---buy yourself a '67 F100. No blockage in the filler tube on that one.
Just my $0.02.
Don

"Anyone know a safe method? I guess you could tap into the schrader valve on the fuel rail and let the fuel pump dispense your gas. I'm not sure what fitting you need to do this."

"Let me get this straight, you guys are jamming tubes/ pumps/ siphoners and all kinds of other cr@p down the gas hole of a 30000 to 40000 to 50000 dollor (speculation) car/ truck."

Hee hee... Classic.

I haven't had to put that much effort into making sure the gasoline is fresh. My mercruiser holds fuel all year and starts the next season. I have thought of siphoning the gas out several times during the past 7 years of having the boat, but I never get around to it.

I wouldn't recommend tapping into the delivery rail of your vehicles fuel system. If you label your gas to be used in 30 days, then put the old gas from the can in your car and go fill the can at the gas station. 30 days later... repeat.

Peace

Sorry for coming off as rude, and true, not everyone has a 30000$ car, I do not. I just get fed up of all the people worring about stail gas after 30 days. It's rediculas
BTW, the canteen guy just replaced the fuel pump in his diesel GMC truck to the tune of 2500 dollors. (perhapes he was ripped off)
I realise the liklyhood of damaging anything is quite slim, however, I also think it's completely unessessary to go to that extent to keep fresh gas for a lawn mower. And being an x- motorcycle mechanic I've seen my share of Varnished carbs.

A diesel fuel pump isn't even kin to the ele. fuel pumps in gas tanks, I think I use to pay around $3 hundred for a semi 350 cummings, thats rebuilt.

It's very possible she (canteen guy) was taken to the cleaners. I still think sifoning gas from a car to keep lawn mower gas "fresh" is.
A) not nessesary as I think gas lasts longer than most people give it credit. If gas was no good after 30 days people would have a serious problem. Think about it.
b) The possibility of screwing something up with the car (like the float for the gas gauge) or whatever, is a possibility. Not nessessarily likly, but if it ain't broke...
c) Can intoduce dirt/debris. Someone mentioned filter, Filter or not, introducing debrise is a bad thing.
d) in an emergency I would sifon gas, but trying to "rotate" gas so as not to run old gas in a lawn mower is a bit paranoid.

i keep 10-15 gallons of gas at the house. sometimes a 5 gallon can gets misplaced and it may contain the same gas for 6 months before i use it. but i still use it in my mower! the only thing i see by using old gas is th emower has less power, but i don't worry about fouling the plugs or anything, cause i always cut a couple times come spring, then change the plugs, oil, filters, etc. this way i have gone thru the old gas before i do any PM.

my tiller has 1 year old gas in it right now, started it this weekend and let it run for about 20 mins. it started on the first pull, and never missed a beat. my chainsaws DO require fresh gas though. i guess the oil mix makes the gas stale quicker, because if i store them with any gas in them i always have to drain and refill before they will run properly.

BTW, 5 gallons of gas gets me 1 cutting of my yard. it is not unusual for me to run 15 gallons of gas thru the mower on a weekend that i have to cut my yard and our tower sites.