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"Setzer Noisette"

13 years ago

"Setzer Noisette" -- A close relative to 'Blush Noisette,' but it grows as a Pillar Climber.

Sadly, not in commerce.

I acquired this by sheer good luck, have shared it widely, and will continue to share it.

Jeri

Comments (10)

  • 13 years ago

    Very pretty

  • 13 years ago

    Jeri ----it is very pretty----May I ask why you have the stones in your birdbaths-----I put some in mine to help the little birds get to the water-----
    Florence

  • 13 years ago

    We put stones in the birdbaths (which need re-filling) for that same reason. So the birds can get to the water -- and get out.

    Jeri

  • 13 years ago

    Jeri

    Lovely found rose! From where was it collected? Is the fragrance similar to 'Bl. Noisette'?

    Carol

  • 13 years ago

    Carol, the fragrance is the same. It has a very similar look -- with slight differences. DNA tests show it to be related to B.N., so it is very likely an un-recorded seedling.

    The story was that a branch of the Setzer family grew this rose in in Virginia in the 19th Century, and that it was carried to Arkansas by a migrating Setzer.

    There, it was shared with a young man, who in turn shared it with Joyce Demits, during an Old Rose seminar in Little Rock, some years ago.

    Joyce offered it for a time through her "Tanglewood Farms" nursery, and I was fortunate enough to get one of her last 1-G plants.

    Jeri

  • 13 years ago

    I have Setzer noisette; I think I got it from Angels Gardens. It is a great rose! Very healthy and blooms and blooms. I love it! Don't have any good pictures now because our heat dries the blooms right up. Definitely one of my favorites.

    Some day I will learn to propagate and it will be one that I will be sure to share.

  • 13 years ago

    Yes. We've shared it to a couple of nurseries -- and, heck, if there were more nurseries left to share it with, we would. I'm glad to know that is paying off.

    Jeri

  • 13 years ago

    Wow! That is a well-traveled rose. Thank you for the history, Jeri.

    Carol

  • 13 years ago

    Jeri -

    at a glance this looks very similar to the Noisette I propagated from the Oakville Cemetery near my house..

    I plan on taking pics and posting to the forum soon, since it has started blooming finally :)

    Marleah

  • 13 years ago

    Well, they all seem to be either clones or seedlings of Blush Noisette, and to some extent, they are all very similar.

    At a casual glance, you could take all the blooms for the same thing, but if you look more closely there are subtle differences.

    You might find the booklet "Noisette Roses: 19th Century Charleston's Gift to the World" (Virginia Kean, Ed, for the Charleston Rose Society) REALLY interesting. (I believe HRF has some for sale.)

    The booklet outlines the results of DNA testing on a whole range of Found Noisettes. None quite seem to match each other, most are "sports or seedlings" of B.N.

    And you find 'em EVERYWHERE!

    Jeri

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