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karyn1_gw

Newbie with questions

19 years ago

Hi. I haven't posted on the AV forum but have been active on GW for a while. I've had a few AV's for a number of years and will admit to benign neglect. They do quite well and bloom most of the year despite never getting fed, watered only when I remember and having been in the same pots for 10 years. Some of them are huge with large sports hanging over the sides of the pots. I picked up a few more AV's the other day and wanted to know if it's possible to find out the variety from a pic or are there just so many that they aren't all named? These tags don't have anything on them except for care instructions (which I obviously ignore anyway lol). These are pics of the new AV's, sorry about the quality.

I also wanted to know if these are chimeras and cannot be propagated by a leaf cutting? Does the term chimera apply to the blooms only or are the variegated foliage plants also chimeras? I just finished reading a thread about it before posting this message.

TIA,

Karyn


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Comments (5)

  • 19 years ago

    Karyn

    Looks like everyone is out on this beautifull day. So I will be the first to comment . Im not the expert, but I can tell you that those are not chimeras, I posted pics of some just like them and I was told they are called "thumb prints" . Rather than misguide you I will stop here and not comment further and let the experts do their thing.

  • 19 years ago

    Considering I know almost nothing about AV's anything would be helpful. After reading about chimeras I was afraid that's what they were. A friend wanted leaf cuttings and I'd hate to have given them something that wasn't going to turn out to be the plant they were expecting. Actually I'll probably just buy them some. For $1 a piece it's not worth wasting time trying to root the leaves. lol What is a "thumb print"? Thanks for the info.
    Karyn

  • 19 years ago

    Karyn,

    The right one - purple "thumbprint" on white - is Rhapsodie Cora. It is a rare exception when you can name the plant on the fly, usually it is hopeless. It mostly comes true from the leaf - sometimes they all mutate - sport - and do not come true - like baby comes solid purple. It was one of my first AVs and it is still growing and blooming very reliably.

    Chimeras only come true from offshoots - suckers. The pattern on the bloom is a "pinwheel" - when you have a stripe of different color in the middle of each petal. "Thumbprint" - is a spot of a different color closer to the tip of the petal.

    For $1 a piece you can only get noname poor orphans from the big store on a clearance rack. Since collecting - is part of an obsessive-compulsive disorder in a mild form (hopefully) - we want to have a specific named plant no matter what, most of our collection are named plants except may be several kept for sentimental reasons and/or beautiful blooms.

    You have a good touch with your plants, they look lovely and in no time your collection will grow - and at some point you will start getting more systematic with your collection - like you will be interested in chimeras - or minis - or plants from a certain hybridizer. Let's say after you get an african violet #100...

    ;-))

    Good luck

    Irina

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks for the name. I don't collect AV's. I'm obsessed with passifloras, brugs and plumerias though : ) I was in my husband's shop and he'd just gotten his weekly shipment of AV's in and the colors looked so pretty that I decided to take a few home. He gets about 1000 a week so his cost is quite low. I guess I'd never paid much attention to them and after I brought them home I wondered if they had names. If I haven't started collecting them in the past 20 years I think I'm safe, I hope. lol
    Thanks again,
    Karyn

  • 19 years ago

    Hi Karyn,
    Your AV's can have any one of a dozen names. If you are happy with the way they look and don't care to exhibit them in shows, forget about naming them. The thumbprint violets can be part of the Optimara Artist series which was put out a few years back. Depending on the color setting of you camera, they could be O. Van Gogh, Dali, Michaelangello, Leonardo Da Vinci, Seurat, etc. Just be happy with your NOIDS and don't try to name them.
    Fred in NJ

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