Icebergs

13 years ago

I have a couple of questions.

I have a burgundy Iceberg in the front yard that looks pretty much like what burgundy Iceberg should look like. But I bought a 3 iceberg plant that was supposed to be Iceberg-Brilliant Pink Iceberg and Burgundy Iceberg. But I think the Burgundy is really pink Iceberg instead. Does anyone have a burgundy that blooms pink?

Also:

I see that HMF says Iceberg is hardy to 4b

Pink Iceberg, a sport of Iceberg, is only listed as hardy to 6b

Brilliant Pink Iceberg, a sport of Pink Iceberg, is hardy to 6b

and Burgundy Iceberg, a sport of Brilliant Pink Iceberg, is hardy to 6b

Does the color make it less hardy? Is that an error on HMF for Iceberg should it be listed as 6b hardy?

And does anyone in New Hampshire have any experience with Burgundy Iceberg? I have a friend that was taken by the web photo of Osiria and realized what I am not fond of on my Burgundy Iceberg is the light color reverse.

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gardenheat
13 years ago
I had a burgundy iceberg for 5 years. The spring flush was definitely a deep burgundy with white coloring rose. The blooms during the heat of summer were a medium pink and white. The burgundy color definitely faded in the heat.
jerijen
13 years ago
We're having these successive heatwaves. Many poiple roses do bloom pink-to-shocking-pink, in real heat. That could be the situation.

Jeri

Hey, Kippy! My DH is doing a propagation program at Santa Barbara Rose Society, this Thursday. Wanna come??? :-)

Jeri
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Baboosic z5b NH
13 years ago
I grow Burgundy Iceberg in south central New Hampshire and it survives winter with minimal tip damage. No special protection, but it's in a spot that's shielded from strong winds. In my experience, the heat doesn't lighten the color; if anything it gets a bit darker, sort of muddy. Last year it had one single cane with light pink flowers.
Kippy
Original Author
13 years ago
Jeri,

I hope to make it!

Ratdogheads, my friend is not that far from Manchester is that close to your weather?
Baboosic z5b NH
13 years ago
Manchester is practically right next door; I'm in Amherst.
roseseek
13 years ago
The colored Icebergs revert and sport frequently, plus Burgundy can fade drastically. The different ratings for zones is easy to explain. The default for the class is 6b. Someone personally reported Iceberg to have survived to zone 4b. As soon as others report the two sports hardy to that zone, the ratings will be changed. Kim
johnnidappl
13 years ago
I'm not so sure that the colour is all that is different about the sports of Iceberg. I have the original, Brilliant Pink and Burgundy versions as do many neighbours and the pink and burgundy versions are just not as prolific as the white version. I've also heard from others that the blackspot susceptibility is different amongst the sports as well; my own experience is that the original white is more prone to spotting than the two sports.
Baboosic z5b NH
13 years ago
Maybe it's a climate thing and maybe I ought to put my 2 cents in on the roses you hate to love post...my Burgundy Iceberg is a fine rose. The color is deep and rich and never has been otherwise, save that one pink cane, which was kinda cute. I wouldn't call her prolific, but she's never without flowers. Yes she blackpots but pretty much everything in New England blackspots. I also have a couple young white iceberg climbers. BS resistance seems about the same, but hard to judge because I do spray.