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i'm new and need help?

16 years ago

Hi to all,

I have been poking around and reading as much as I can before asking any question about winter sowing. I do not know anyone in zone 4 in Vermont that does winter sowing so I know that Im asking newbie questions. So my first question is this: I try to figure out when to start winter sowing the seeds I have but I because a little confused by it. So I have put a list of the seeds I think I can sow now and in Feb I can start sowing my HHA and HA. I really would like input on anything listed below. My second question : Has anyone put their winter sown seeds in a unheated Greenhouse and what did they have to do for the seed while in there? The last question I have is: I was reading about what veggies are good to winter sow and some of the veggie make since. But the warm loving like pepper, toms, eggplants, cukes when would you start them in zone 4 at the end of march?

Sow in Jan:

Achillea Millefolium - White milfoil

Achillea Millefolium rubra- Red Yarrow

Alcea rugosa- Rugose Hollyhock

Alcea rosea - mixed hollyhock

Alcea rosea - ChaterÂs Double Icicle

Alcea rosea - Fiesta Time

Allliaceae cernuum- Allium ( purple)

Apocynaceae tabernaemontana or Amsonia tabernaemontana

Asclepias tuberosa- Butterfly Weed

Asclepias incarnata- Red Milkweed

Aster novae-angliae- New England Aster

Aquilegia - Firecracker

Aquilegia vulgaris- Ruby Port

Aquilegia - Roman Bronze

Aquilegia Winky Mix- all it said was pre-chill seeds

Campanula rotund folia Âolympica -Bluebells of Scotland

Campanula persicifolia  Alba"- Like a bellflower

Catananche - CupidÂs dart

Centaurea cyanus- Blue Boy Bachelor Button

Centaurea cyanus - Frost Queen

Cheiranthus allionii- Siberian Wallflower

Cheiranthus cheiri- Wallflower Blood Red

Cleome serrulata- Rocky Mountain Bee Plant

Clematis- Radar Love

Coreopsis Lanceolata- yellow

Delphinium elatum- Belladonna

Dianthus amurensis  Siberian BlueÂ

Digitalis purpurea  Alba - White Foxglove

Digitalis grand flora- Yellow Foxglove

Digitalis purpurea- PamÂs Choice

Eryngium yuccifolium- Rattlesnake Master

English Daisy - Habanera Red Tips??????? I think I can do this one

Gaillardia grand flora  Burgundy - Blanket Flower

Hellborus orientalis- Washfield Double

Lychnis chalcedonica - Dusky Salmon

Lychnis viscaria - Feuer

Lupin - Tutti Frutti and Red Flame

Malva Moschata- Mallow Mix

Malva sylvestris - Mystic Merlin

Malva sylvestris - maroon malva

Meconopsis betonicfolia- Himalayan Blue Poppy

Monarda Punctata

Papaver paeoniflorum ÂVenus - Peony Poppy ( said to sowing very early in spring or in fall in mild winter)

Penstemon digitalis- Husker Red

Phacelia tanacetifolia- Lacy Phacelia

Primula acaulis- Primrose Gold Lace

Primula japonica- MillerÂs Crimson

Primula veris- Wild Cowslip

Ratabida columnifera- Mexican Hat

Veronica- Speedwell

Sorry it so long but i'm nervous about when i'm putting the out at the right time.

Thanks East

Comments (7)

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Hi East, welcome to the forum.

    Wintersowing begins on the winter solstice. Any time after that begin with anything hardy in your area. This is, hardy in your zone (perennials and hardy annuals.)

    Best to wait until close to spring for anything that will be damaged by frost- half hardy annuals, and tender perennial and tender annuals. I'm not sure when that is in zone 4. For me it's late March or April.

    Karen

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Just taking a quick glance at your list it looks to me like you are on the right track as far as now goes. I don't use an unheated greenhouse, but it seems like as long as you water and keep them moist when needed and make sure that they don't cook they should be okay. Someone else will come along who has experience. Welcome and good luck!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    HI Gardenluv and Karen,
    Thank you for the input.
    So then if i have done my homework right then half hardy annual,tender perennial, and tender annual I can start sowing around April to May in my area. So has either of you and anyone else winter sown vegatables? If so, what did well for you and what didn't? Also I know that I will have extra of the flower seeds I listed so i don't know if its ok here to do but i'm more than happy to trade and share a few with someone else.

    East

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Yes, veggies work, too. I've done cabbage and broccoli before, and I am trying spinach, lambs lettuce, carrots and parsnips this year. While more folks seem to do flowers, if you do searches of the forum on the particular veggies you're interested in, I think you'll find information on most of them. Cool season veggies are the most obvious choices for someone with a short growing season.

    In addition, Trudi's wintersown.org site has a fair amount of info specific to wintersowing tomatoes. I will say that in your zone, for heat loving veggies like tomatoes you'll want to be sure to get varieties that mature early. Again, if you search this forum specifically for tomatoes, you'll find more input from others in zones similar to yours.

    Welcome to WS!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    This is my second year winter sowing and my first year experimenting with my unheated greenhouse as a walk in container.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I have done several veggies via wintersowing. Tomatoes and peppers do great, but don't produce until very late in the season since we have a short growing period. Greenbeans and cucumbers did great, but for me it is easier to just direct sow those. Herbs do fantastic!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I still feel like a newbie but been here awhile, welcome! That's quite an ambitious list. The only ones we have in common as to exact variety are bachelor's button and the wallflower.

    I'm not one of the better WS'ers, did read a lot of faqs and followed directions to a point the best I could at the time and just did it. What I wanted the most didn't germinate but most of the rest did my first year. This is only my 2nd year because I wasn't motivated last winter.

    One, you are bound to get something on that list and probably a lot.

    Two, suggest you hold back some of the seeds you want the most so if they fail, you can have a second shot with spring sowing in containers (different method) or trying again next year.

    Before I got the courage to try WS'ing, I was having pretty good luck spring sowing with a strategy I worked out myself, just more work, sometimes necessary for me.

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