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Lady Carolina

17 years ago

I knew there was a reason why I planted this rose.

Now I remember!

She's a tip-rooting, garden-devouring monster, but she is also completely disease-free here, and blooms almost explosively.

Despite her size and space-eating vigor, she was actually sort of hidden by "Manchester Guardian Angel."

Today I managed to chop down about half of "MGA," and I hope to get the rest by Monday.

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Now Lady Carolina begins to show what she can do.

However, she MUST be dissuaded from eating the lime tree.

Jeri

Comments (9)

  • 17 years ago

    Oh Jeri, she is mighty pretty. I wish I had room for her...

  • 17 years ago

    Well, that's the problem with her, for sure.

    She is big, and she is PUSHY. She will throw canes out into another rose's territory, and she will tiproot in a heartbeat.

    That said, we have her wound up a tripod, which concentrates her in a smaller area. And when she tiproots, we just rip the newbies out of the ground.

    But she's surely not for everyone, but if you can control her, she is very rewarding, and free of disease in our climate.

    Jeri

  • 17 years ago

    That is a beautiful rose, Jeri.Is it a once bloomer? I just looked up to see if it was the same as Miss Caroline, and it isn't.

    So pretty!

    SAmmy

  • 17 years ago

    The last I heard, 'Lady Carolina' was listed by ARS as a Shrub.
    Its habit is along the lines of "vigorous climber or weeper," and it is a sport of 'Lady Gay' (H. wichurana, Michael H. Walsh, U.S., 1905).

    It is definitely remontant.

    In my garden, it repeats in successive flushes. Maybe the spring extravaganza is the most impressive, but it is good through the year.
    It is also, as I said, a real thug in the garden, and must be restrained -- if allowed to, it will tip-root all over the place. (We don't allow it.)

    I wanted it because I saw the sprays a woman in our area was cutting from hers. Had I known about its habit, I'd STILL have bought it.
    It is absolutely disease-free for us.

    Here is a link that might be useful: 'Lady Carolina' at HelpMeFind

  • 17 years ago

    I've grown two plants for five or six years. They are down on the fence line and they are magnificent. Haystack shaped roses about seven feet tall and five feet wide. Thriving on no care. No spray?=no problem.
    No water in drought once established?= will still bloom in fall.
    Home to raucous mocking birds. (I think a deer lived under one for a while this spring.)
    So far, no RRD even though a rose near by got it....Make that two roses, one of which we may have saved by catching the sickness early.

    This is the refined shade of pink that I wish The Fairy wore.

  • 17 years ago

    So is it definite that 'Lady Carolina' is a sport of 'Lady Gay' rather than of 'The Fairy'? I'm certain that the first reference I ever saw to this variety said the latter-- it was in American Rose, I think. MR 10 says "sport of 'Lady Gay'" and "shrub."

    I saw a Climbing Fairy (?) yesterday blooming heavily in deep shade. Maybe one third of the plant gets an hour or two of sun, but the rest is on the north side of a dense maple.

  • 17 years ago

    So is it definite that 'Lady Carolina' is a sport of 'Lady Gay' rather than of 'The Fairy'?

    *** Failing a DNA test, I doubt anyone will ever TRULY know.
    But if you held me down and demanded a guess, I'd say that its health in my garden argues for 'Lady Gay,' making it a Hwich.
    (Of course, I could be completely wrong.)

    Jeri

  • 17 years ago

    Oh what a rose! Beautiful and unusual one! Reminds me of a chrysanthemum in bloom form. The link says 5b and warmer, don't have room for a rose that big anyway. You did mention tip rooting.

    I'm trying to figure out which roses to root here shortly (will give most away if they root, just want a few for myself). But rather than using cuttings, there are two roses that practically lay on the ground.

    Could I layer them? How hard is it to do and how do I know which kinds it works on without just trying it out? I failed in rooting my C. Rooguchi by layering last year.

  • 17 years ago

    Gorgeous...you people are shameless enablers...