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compost and tomato!

18 years ago

I planted by november 6 tomato seeds in my compost prepared 5 months ago in my farm and notice today any kind of germination , what should I do !!

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  • 18 years ago

    Uh, are your thinking this is a good thing or bad thing? I'm not quite sure how to take the question.

    Is it that you planted by Nov 6,
    or is it that you planted By Nov, 6 tomato seeds

    When you say compost prepared 5 months ago, is it that you started making the compost 5 months ago or that it was finished 5 months ago? Young compost can inhibit germination of some seeds depending on the ingredients and the seeds. Aging of compost is important.

    How does "in my farm" relate to the situation?

    "and notice today any kind of germination" Does this mean you did or did not notice germination?

    what should you do, well what is it you are wanting to achieve? I don't even know where you are or what environment you mean to grow these tomatoes in? It seems the wrong season for starting tomato plants where I am located though the plants I started back in the summer are producing well now.

    What are the conditions under which you were trying to start these seeds? Light, temperature, moisture?
    Are you sure the seeds were viable?

    Many people have better luck using potting or seed starting mix for starting their seeds. I've had good luck using compost but it is very aged, well finished compost that I am using.

    Anyway, my guess with limited information is that you might need to start more seeds using some seed starting or potting mix and then when the seedlings are grown to transplant size, transplant them to the soil amended with your compost.

  • 18 years ago

    Thank you very much for your detailed well exposed of the problematic feedback.

    The idea of recycling local plants resources developed in my mind as result of many factors and I stated developing a personal experimentation in my farm as basic of future small project.

    * I stared building my first windrows (1 m * 2 m * 1 m ) by May 27, 2007 using as raw materials 2/3 of plants residues almost lignified and 1/3 manure (cattle) and some mineral fertilizers.
    * First months : 4 times / week returning and watering and sampling temperatures.

    * Second months : 3 times / week returning and watering and sampling temperatures.

    * Third months : 2 times / week returning and watering and sampling temperatures.

    * Fourth months : 2 times / week returning and watering and samplnig temperatures

    * Fifth months : 1 time / week returning and watering and sampling temperatures

    The windrows development show during all stage of development normal activities :

    * By the 4 days fermentation activities stated and the temperatures get since that higher from day to day and set between 50 to 65 for almost the first month. By the start of the second month the temperatures start to drop .

    * I notice that from the fourth month the was stability in temperatures 35- to 45 I thought that the maturity , curing stage start.

    * Each time there I water the temperatures drop dramatically and return after one day to two to there normal in the stage.

    The first November 2007 and from my observation I thought that my compost is already done and started screening smaple to tray grow tomato seeds on it.

    By November 6 , Seedling was done on trays and put with other trays seeded with commercial compost in germination room where temperature and light and humidity are controlled ( friend of mime who sell tomato plants volunteer to do this experimentation for me).

    The result was disappointing by November 19, there is no germination of tomato seeds in my trays filled with my compost. Beside that my friend tomato germinate and grow well.
    I first thoughts take me to iicomplete maturity and curing stage of my compost !!!!!

    I hope that I ilustate my case and hope to learn more.
    ThankÂs again.

  • 18 years ago

    Are those temps in C or F?

    If C then the compost was plenty hot but probably could have used more time to cure and reach ambient temperature.

    If F, then you didn't get much heating at all and the balance of Nitrogen and carbon probably need work.

    One test I have done on compost, first smell it if it smells good and not like manure then seal some into a plastic bag. Leave that sealed plastic bag for a few days and then smell again. If the bag has not inflated and the contents smell ok still, then it might be safe to use.

    Definitely sounds like your compost didn't pass the germination test with tomatoes. The specifics of why are harder to say. I would probably agree to your assessment of incomplete curing of the compost. The most important tool or ingredient of compost in patients. Several months of curing at ambient temperature is reasonable. This is the time when fungus and worms really get to work on the compost.

  • 18 years ago

    I'm feeling much more confident about what I did. Temperature are in C. I'll be leaving mycompost for one more month in curing stage and I will then trying to grow tomato seeds on it again.
    Again thank you tclynx for your interactions.
    azam2007.