no, but i certainly would like to. MGS is possibly going this year and will be sadly missed but this one looks really interesting. where are you going to get it? want it, want it!

I am not sure if I will be able to this year, but Bierkreek has it and I wants it, so hopefully I can lay my hands on it. ;)

yes, i see they ship to the UK too. Hmmm!

They are quite friendly bunch, although sometimes rather chaotic - you should ask for their new list of roses available, since on their site it is a bit outdated.

Oh well, I ordered it, now lets hope it does not turn out to be defoliated, thorny and overly vigorous disaster. X)

Glad to let you be first on this - i think it might be a case of sentimentality overturning rationale as I have seen a Long John Silver, another setigera hybrid (I think) which was huge. Even so, much looking forward to reports. How many have you bought this year so far? Still only at 6 but early days yet. Bulb order to get in and all. (Thank god for Peter Nyssen!)

I would probably be tempted to grow Long John Silver, if I was in a colder climate and had more of a high wall. But then again I have PHM and one "6m+ canes a year" rose is quite enough. ;)

This year I think I have picked about 12, that's not counting a few moderns that I might or might not buy in the end (Aphrodite, Pomponella, Pink Cloud). Then a few clematis and 4 trees, and there my finances pretty much run out.

So far I ordered:
1 Tolstoi,
2 Sophie's Perpetual,
3 Nur Mahal,
4 Old Blush,
5 Mutabilis,
6 Mari Robert
7 Queen Mab (by accident, but oh well)
8 Buff Beauty
9 Hugonis
10 Maid of Kent
11 Lady of Shalott
12 Summer Song

I am thinking about Flora McIvor and Dupontii at the moment, since I need to plant something near my North wall and I was not very impressed by the albas, not to mention that I can't smell them at all! So it is either that, either will look at the musks again.

Crap, bulb talk reminds me that I have whole basket of them under the stairs, I so hope cats did not pee in there! o.O

at least the mice won't have eaten them.
Climbing Paul Lede? Moonlight will get tall and thin with a bit of judicious pruning - i just got it this year - very healthy so far.
I also got SS this year and had SP for its first season. Still tiny as it got mugged out by sweetpeas. Love hugonis, would like R.cantabridgeiensis for allotment.

I have climbing Paul Lede near my backdoor, did not bloom this year so far, for it came from a bit random source - some shops trim their bareroots here rather severely. I was very skeptical about them when I got them, but to be honest, they grew as large as not trimmed ones from the different sources.

Moonlight you mean the Pemberton one I hope, not the Kordes one? I have a rose addict friend who likes the Kordes one *shrudder*. I replanted my MAC near the North wall, since I could not look at her mildew anymore in my back yard, so if she gets over it, I might be done with the climbers there (PHM and Paul's scarlet keeping the company, also probably Etoile de Hollande will go there on a corner, since I have to make some support structure for the blackberries. I grew blackberries in my old garden and they were mannerly 1.50 m. shrubs there in z5. Not here - the blasted things get 3 m long canes to all directions and I planted 3 of them! So blackberies on one side of arbor, rose on the other, should look ok me thinks. :)

But back to the North wall, there is a strip of about 2 meters from the wall to the sidewalk there, somewhere around 12 meters long, then it continues as a side of my front garden, for another 10 meters or so. I have a meter high narrow hedge there from fagus (popular here) and a line of Japanese cherries "Amanogawa" (since they have lovely narrow habit, nicely suitable for that location), with about 4 meters space in between the trees. So general plan is to plant something in same row in between the cherries (about 2 shrubs, not all roses) and there is also some space near the wall, for another row of shrubs/plants. I want it to be a low maintenance part, so the plan is to dump a few shrubs I already have there, butterfly bushes that struggle in full sun, forsythias for same reason, one stingy bloomer bush magnolia and few roses, although I have a feeling that Leda might not do well there, same for Quatre Saison, but JF Grootendorst and Cornelia should be fine.

I also need one more climber for an arbor in my back yard, bus so far really not sure what to plant there, since it is somewhat orangy-lemon-yellow part. I was thinking about Mme. Berard, but if she turns out to be pinkish, it will look odd and I won't have space where to stick her otherwise. I should probably look once again at the Austin climbers, if there is any higher one and not too stiff (I like Graham Thomas, but he seems to be stiffish and in some garden nearby he stays at about 2 m, which is tad too short for that place.)

hmmm, i have a couple of GT which grow huge, stiff and are terrific asgainst a wall (dead easy to prune and train)but i think would be a bit swinish for an arbour. I think you might have mentioned having one of the sempervirens, (Adelaide d'Orleans)oh the dilemmas!You could just plop one of the vigorous viticellas such as Polish Spirit there - I have it intertwining with my GTs.
Blackberries- did you get thornless ones? I grow them on wires as they are easy to keep in order as long as I only let them go in two dimensions and only allow 6 canes per plant,although they are at their most unruly just now, before harvesting and hacking back all the old growth. I am thinking they would be quite hard to contain on an arbour too. In fact, the whole arbour thing has sort of passed me by and I just have a couple of boring benches.

Yes, I got the thornless ones, they are not that bad if you have some sort of support to attach them to. I have them planted in a corner of a fence near my back gates, but they grow over it and before you know it, you can't pass the path there. Arbor is a big word, basically I plan on 4 poles and something to tie stuff to inbetween, just to keep them out of the way.

I was also thinking that I might use something else there, instead of the rose, if I can't make up my mind, I still got campsis in my pot gheto, also grape could do great, as well as one of the bigger clematis, even wisteria (I also have white one in pot gheto).

noooo campsis - a suckering maniac, huge and needs full sun. will only ever plant if we are asked to cover a church.
grapes, mmm lovely. good structure, nice to prune and shape, lots of leafage.
same with wisteria - is it a grafted plant?
Clems look a bit sordid for a lot of the time unless they are disguised under something else.
Decisions, decisions

campsis still puzzles me a bit, since it is used a lot in some parts of Spain to cover the fences (about 2 m brick ones) and looks fabulous there. I have seen some of it here though and one in my old garden also seems to go up to the sky, so I wonder what can be done with it. Flowers are pretty though and foliage looks good. None of the plants I encountered seems to sucker though.

Grape is also nice, but most of the time has to be sprayed to keep foliage kleen, also when they start ripening, blackbirds can make incredible mess. Still, it is very decorative in the autumn.

Wisteria I have an ordinary one from the generic store, got it as a gift last year and did not get to planting. I think it is grafted, quite pretty in a spring and less messy than a grape later on.

Clematis kind of depends on a kind, montanas usually are raher decorative even when not in bloom, just can be a bit leggy on the bottom. Anoying part about them is that they are no prune group and get rather big, so not all that good combined with the other plants that need pruning.

I have only ever seen one good campsis in the UK and that was on a bloody great brick wall, south-facing - think it was Madame Galen, a peachy orange. Oh yes, it certainly will sucker, yards away from where it has been planted too, as bad as bamboo. I know what you mean though, the flowers are lovely.
Eurrgh, montanas, the only thing worse is the dreaded armandii. Currently loving the texensis clems like Etoile Rose or Princess Diana.
I am also thinking about chinese gooseberries - actinidia chinensis - gorgeous scandent foliage and fruits too. There has been loads of work done by Czech breeders to get good self-fertile ones.
Finally, very interested in Schisandra - think you need a male and a female to get the long skeins of scarlet berries but the flowers are rather lovely scarlet dowmturned saucers.
Oh yes, what about a solanum - I have a few of these, mainly bush types but also a couple of climbers - the usual old album and also a tiny jasminoides - a soft lilac flower.
Having a minuscule space, going up as always my first and best option, still keen to swap and ring the changes this year though.

That's interesting regarding campsis, since mine in old garden is I think about 10 years old if not older, and did not sucker even once. I have one growing here on a fence for a third year, did not sucker so far either. Maybe it needs a specific conditions to do so, I had one decorative tree in old garden (the one that has branches resembling young deer horns, can't recall the latin name), which suckered horribly every year it froze to the ground.

hehe, I like montanas, though my fav. this year is viticella Purpurea Plena Elegance. Have you seen antragene Ocean Pearl? That's on my wish list #1 spot at the moment.

About actinidia, unless Czech breeders did a miracle, I am seriously not impressed with it. Looks like some self seeded renegade shrub, not that much fruits compared to how much space it takes and fruits themselves are nothing really special in my opinion. So I think I will stay with my ordinary old prickly gooseberry. :D

Schisandra looks interesting, never encountered it before I think. Solanum I never grew before either, but with it my concerns would be also if it is not poisonous, since some plants of that family are.

I also got curious about some more exotic breeds of raspberries, my in laws got me this year to prune theirs (since mother-in-law did not like father-in-law pruning all the new shots the years before, which of course meant no berries and deadish sticks) and they have some very strange ones, I wonder if they will get some suckers I could put my hands on.