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18 years ago

... me with my next Vintage order? I should probably wait until the Tea Rose book arrives but i fear media mail means a slow boat and could be weeks away still.

My short list-the ones that have earned for sure spots-

Le Grande Capitaine

Sophies Perpetual

Gruss an Coburg

Barcelona

Noella Nabonnand

Creekside Manor Tea

These I will probably add unless you talk me out of one-

General Gallieni

Duquesa

Devoniensis

The rest interest me but could go either way-good alternates maybe?

Hawaiian Sunset

Geranium Red

SdlM

Angel's Camp Tea

Enchantress

Georgetown Tea

McClinton Tea

Mlle. Jean Phillipe

Mme. Berkeley

Mmme. Charles

Niles Cochet

Princess de Sagan

Bengale d'Automne

Bengale Centefeuilles

Comtesse du Cayla

Monsieur Tillier

San Leandro Dark Red HT

Samaritan

Maria Peral

Angele Pernet

Well, i know, i am so greedy and the list is too long even tho i have limited myself to what looks to be in stock. Am i foolish to think you all might be able to help me narrow<?I> it down?

Comments (10)

  • 18 years ago

    I can comment on 2. I know that fragrance is subjective, but I find Gruss an Coburg's to be very odd. Maybe like beer? Not like myrrh, or a traditional "tea" scent. Vintage says it is fantastic, so you might like it. It has been a very poor grower in Maryland and is not more than 10 inches tall. It is 2 or 3 years old in a spot w/ good soil, water and 1/2 day sun. Maybe full sun would be better? Good repeat.

    Enchantresse is a lovely lilac/raspberry edged rose w/ a sweet, strong fragrance like Mrs. B. R. Cant, but w/ much more mannerly growth: 3x3 in 2-3 years. Very good repeat. Balls in very wet weather.

    Hope this helps!

  • 18 years ago

    Location is everything. My own root Gruss Am Coberg is one of the best roses in my yard--about 3'-4', healthy and floriferous.

    From the alternates list, if you go there--SdlM (count yourself lucky if it prospers--it's a great rose), Mme. Berkeley, Samaritan, Niles Cochet.

    Colleen

  • 18 years ago

    Of course, I provide the caveat that my experience comes
    ONLY from Coastal Southern CA, where we are located.
    YMMV.

    I enthusiastically second Mme. Berkeley and Niles Cochet.
    Both are flawless in my climate.

    Eugene de Beauharnais (Le Grande Capitaine) has zero resistance to rust --
    If you don't HAVE rust, that's no big deal.
    The Gen. Gallieni I had was a weak grower.
    I'd like to try him again, tho, because he's lovely, and was at least disease-free.
    Devoniensis in the bush form can be lacking in vigor, but when it's right, it has few equals.
    And I would not be without Mons. Tillier.

    Jeri

  • 18 years ago

    I don't have many on your list but I highly recommend Monsieur Tillier. It is the very best of my roses in terms of form and no disease. It doesn't rebloom quite as often as I would like, but that's something I can live with. (for comparison purposes, I'm in Mississippi)

    Mary

  • 18 years ago

    For me Angel's Camp Tea is a much better plant in terms of appearance and flower production than McClinton Tea. McT never seems to have nice foliage and the flowers blow quickly, especially in the heat, and the bush is gawky. ACT had a nice, bushy form even as a baby with always some buds on it and beautiful flowers.

    Ingrid

  • 18 years ago

    Beer? I like beer. But not on roses. Eeeww. Off the list with GaC.
    Two votes for Mme. Berkeley already? On the list she goes. Ditto Niles Cochet. See how easy i am?
    And two for Mons. Tillier. Really? Well, OK. I hope he does his shading to brick thing for me because i'm really not sure about his softer side.
    So far i have rust on some grasses and rust on plumeria but no rust on roses. It's probably just a matter of time but i really want to see Eugene de Beauharnais which means i will have to grow him for myself. Plus i really like saying that name-Beauharnais. Gosh-i hope i'm saying it right-Bow-har-nay?
    SdlM-off the list. I realize she is everyone else's favorite rose-not mine.
    McClinton tea-off the list. Can anyone compare Angel's Camp Tea to Arcadia Louisiana Tea? I think i really want ALT but it is not available right now.
    There sure are some pretty pictures of Enchantress on HMF. I see her arm in arm with Lady H or SdPN.
    This is fun-thanks.

  • 18 years ago

    General Gallieni is completely clean here, at the end of his second year. Mine is a strong grower with good blooms. I like the dark red/pink/cream blossoms but there is no strong scent that I can detect. He does well in a lot of sun. I like this rose.

  • 18 years ago

    General Gallieni is a great rose. Love the blooms and he isn't a monster. About 6 ft here. Devoniensis is slow to get established but has a strong fragrance and gorgeous white blooms with the faintest blush at times. In time it makes a respectable size bush. Comtesse du Cayla is one of the most reliable bloomers in my garden. Though the blooms aren't long lasting, there are so many that you don't mind and there are a variety of bloom colors all at one time on the bush, orange, pink, yellow and every combination of those colors. Very healthy here. Niles Cochet was a monstrous thing here, I hope you have lots of room :-).

    Carol

  • 18 years ago

    Monstrous?

    Did you say monstrous? How big is monstrous exactly?

    GG i am all smiles about.

    Pictures are always welcome.

  • 18 years ago

    Well i hope its not supposed to be a secret-haven't received an email yet and the home page isn't updated-but it looks like Vintage is having a sale-bringing a premature end to my research. Not every rose on my list mind you, but enough to offset shipping. 16 roses at less than $13 each including shipping-i am thrilled!