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Wintering late planted mums

12 years ago

I planted 5 garden mums in the first week of August in an area that gets sun from noon to sunset. I understand this is pretty late to be planting mums and still expect them to come back next year, but I thought I'd give it a shot. Worst case, I have nice mums for the fall and need more in the spring. But I'm still trying to create a good situation for them so they'll have the best chance of coming back. I dug very deep and wide holes for them in my hard clay soil, and planted them level to the ground in Miracle Grow garden soil, and mulched as normal around them. I've been making sure they get at least one deep drink a week (or 2 drinks when it's been hot and dry). They're just now starting to flower.

So my question is, is there anything else I can do to help them through the winter? Should I bury them in mulch or pine needles when frost comes, or would that make no difference? I asked a question earlier about roses, and learned that mulching the base of my roses for winter could kill them with disease, so I don't want to just go ahead and bury the mums in mulch like I had originally planned, if this would be bad for them.

Comments (5)

  • 12 years ago

    Don't cut back the top growth until spring when you see signs of green at the base. A couple inches of mulch around the base is okay, don't pile it higher than about two inches. If some don't come back next spring, check the website for Bluestone Perennials and find the mum of your dreams. Good luck!

  • 12 years ago

    Sounds like you have taken all the right steps. You could remove the flowers and buds right now if you want to take another precaution. Flowering and the subsequent seed-set saps an incredible amount of energy from the plant. Removing all the flowers this year will ensure that energy is, instead, directed toward building a stronger root system. PS--I'm interested in your comment about not mulching roses. I have never heard such a thing. Mulching the roses after the first hard freeze, and removing it in late winter, is the preferred method taught to Master Gardeners here, and is generally considered better plant management than using the Styrofoam cones. I'd be curious to hear more details about why it's not optimal, and what is recommended instead.

  • 12 years ago

    not all mums.. sold in fall .. are winter hardy ... though in your z6.. it should be more than the one i used to buy up here in in MI ...

    if you are buying un-named plants at bigboxstore.. it can be hit or miss ... no matter what you do

    so do you best... but dont go blaming yourself if they fail over winter ....

    i would throw some mulch over them AFTER they are dormant... to forestall any mid winter breaking of dormancy.. should there be a failure of snow cover .... and a warm spell in mid winter ...

    ken

  • 12 years ago

    If the plants are showing new growth at the base going into winter and you add a couple inches of mulch, they have a decent shot of overwintering.

    Most times, mums are pushed into maximal bloom for late summer/fall sales, apparently are exhausted by the end of the season and doubtful winter survivors.

    I would treat all late-planted mums as annuals and take even minimal overwintering as a plus.

    By the way, it's probably not a good idea to place new plantings in a pure soil amendment product if the surrounding soil isn't good (i.e. dense and clayey). The planting spot will wind up being a moisture sink and the roots will likely stay in that spot without spreading out into surrounding soil, thus limiting hardiness.

  • 12 years ago

    I was told in another thread that mulching the base of roses can cause stem canker.

    These mums were bought at a nursery and not a big box store, but they seem pretty standard to me.

    I didn't know that about soil amendment... I just thought I was giving them the best possible soil to grow in. Well, I guess we'll find out in the spring if they make it! :)