Claire, I have 2 teas that are quite similar, Enchantress & Souv de Francois Gaulain. They're magenta with a touch of silver. They've been slow growers, getting wider than tall, very leafy and healthy. They have a high petal count so in the spring so far they ball somewhat. I don't think they're going to be very large bushes.

Fellemberg is a similar color if I remember right - deep pink /magenta.

White Maman Cochet is mostly white with dark pink/red, probably will be on the large side.

Mme Antoine Mari is a red, semi double tea rose.

Nur Mahal is almost red.

If you like climbers, Duchesse d'Auerstadt is deeper yellow and lots of petals.

Those are my darker ones, and they're healthy.

Sherry

I got some roses that were not OGR, for the same reason, all the OGRs seem to be pale or muted colors... I got JULIA CHILD, LIVIN EASY', DON JUAN, GOLD MEDAL, FOURTH OF JULY, and several more, all in bright orange-y or bright yellow-gold or bright reds, all grafted on Fortuniana.. from K & M Roses... and am sure glad I did... they have more vibrant colors and larger blooms, they do seem to get a bit more BS but not a real problem... I especially like JULIA CHILD and LIVIN' EASY, I have them in the front of the beds and the combination of bright yellow and orange is very striking, people stop and admire them.... I also have several BELINDA's DREAM and see now she is listed as Earth-Friendly, she never stops putting out those large pink blooms..... works for me.....sally

"Magnolia Cemetery Rose" seems to be a softer shade of red than Louis Philippe or Cramoisi Superieur. As a China, it should be terrific in FL.

Niles Cochet is a nice blend of red and pink.

Think about 'Gloire des Rosomanes,' (Ragged Robin) which is a glowing Chinese lacquer red.

Another red China is 'White Pearl in Red Dragon's Mouth,' (Chi Long Han Zhu) -- a warmer red than Louis Philippe.

Oh, and how about 'Sanguinea' (Miss Lowe's). A more striking red you can't find anywhere.

And if you want yellow, think about going to Burlington Rose Nursery for a budded plant of 'Sunshine.'
I couldn't be more enthused about a rose than I am about this fragrant little beauty. (Will it blackspot for you? Dunno. It's bred from William Allen Richardson.)

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Jeri

Thank you all for all the wonderful suggestions. I think I must have them all :)

Sherry, that Souvenir de Francois Gaulain caught my eye, that should stand out among all the pink and white. I have a good variety of pink roses in various shades but with the summer heat they all seem to fade to the same shade of light pink. Hopefully that will change in the fall when the weather cools off.

Sally, I also fell in love with Julia Child. I bought my MIL that rose for Mother's Day and I am going to have to get one for myself. I have Don Juan and Belinda's Dream and they both do great for me. I am really loving the color of Livin Easy. Does this rose do well for you?

Jeri, I just love Sunshine, it's a very pretty rose and the fact that it is fragrant is a plus with me. Does this rose stay that lovely color of yellow?

ALAS, no.
It quickly fades to a soft creme.
The good news is that those faded blooms quickly fall off, to be replaced by new bright yellow ones.
It was Int. 1927, and is so rare -- at least in the U.S. -- that it's a wonder it wasn't lost entirely.

Jeri