Jean Bach Sisley
Janet
Abraham Darby
Cottage Rose
Monsieur Tillier
Harlow Carr
Mrs. Dudley Cross

Ingrid

is that DH for dumber half? I know men are dumb, but, anyway, Abraham Darby is a nice big fat rose, Fair Bianca is superb, lots of frilly petals, opens really well, does not ball up, very productive. FB does better in my climate.

in my experience all roses root from cuttings. Some are more difficult than others, some root better in the winter...it's just a matter of trying. I never make less that 15 ot 20 cuttings of a rose (if I have the material). Chances are that one survives, and that's often all we need. On the other hand I often end up with more roses than I can use (I currently have about 10 May Queen which is a lot when one knows how big it gets!). That makes for excellent gifts!

Pretty much any of the old tea roses are great as cutting roses because they last long after being cut. Most English roses smell great but are not as good for cutting because they fall apart soon after being cut. If a hybrid perpetual is cut just as it opens it will last for a few days easily.

Lance

For cutting, I like the Buck roses, Prairie Sunrise, Quietness, Winter Sunset and Honeysweet as well as teas, Mrs. B. R. Cant, Barrone Henriette de Snoy, and Mrs Dudley Cross. These perform well in my no-spray garden here in blackspot land. I have ordered Prairie Harvest and think it may fit your criteria also.

How funny, cannabisgrower. Sometimes I'd have to agree. Having two of you confirm Abe Darby really helps. I have him growing on a trellis and just love him. I've been wanting to plant another to grow as a shrub and the cutting garden is just the place.

I don't like to cut blooms from my landscape gardens so I don't have much experience with the vase life of most of my roses. I love the bourbons. Can anyone tell me how well they hold up in the vase?

Ingrid, I'll be looking these up. Some I know but there are some you mentioned that I either don't know or don't remember.

Thanks. Keep the suggestions coming.

Linda

My problem with Abraham Darby as a cut flower was that the blooms were SO
large that, in a vase, they became a topheavy menace.
Also, the stems were thin for all of that weight, and the foliage could be
small for the bloom size. (I no longer exhibit much, but that sort of proportion
problem still bothers me.)

I do better with Golden Celebration -- tho it can still have similar problems.
If cut reasonably early, the blooms will open beautifully in a vase, and
remain fragrant as they age.

Austin's Prospero is terrific in a vase in every way.
And most of the Tea Roses (Tea Roses, NOT Hybrid Tea Roses!) are excellent
cut flowers.

Grandmother's Hat is among my favorites. Cut fairly tight, it has a good vase
life. And the foliage is pretty enough to be half of the attraction.

Jeri

Most any rose can be a good cut rose if you treat it right. I used to have a heckuva time in Florida getting good cut flowers out of the China "Cramoisi Superieure" until I began cutting the stems at an angle, and recutting at a bit of an angle under water. If I didn't do that, they'd last something like 15 minutes (literally). When I did, they lasted about as well as any other rose, and probably longer than they do on the bush (unless it's cool outside). The recutting under water is an important part of getting them to last, also, add a couple drops of bleach to the water to keep bacteria from clogging the stems and preventing water uptake.

--Ron

Ron's right about that. I love to have Louis Phillipe for Christmas bouquets.

Still, when we grew Abraham Darby, I finally gave up cutting it.
Put it in a vase, and it always wanted to fall over.

Jeri

Some time ago, someone (I think it was Jeri, but not sure) posted a photo of Grandmother's Hat in a vase (or was it an old milk bottle?). It was incredibly beautiful! If whoever it was posted that photo again, I think it would be a cert for a spot in that garden.

:-) That would be an old milk bottle-shaped jar. :-)

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And yes, she really is my favorite cut flower.

(It was nice to meet you last weekend.)

Jeri

Abraham D. is not really good in a vase - you need to use a ROSE BOWL, that bowl-like thing made of nice crystal, and on top is has kind of a metal meshwork - the meshwork supports the heavy bloom, and the perforations let the stem through so it can sit in the water, and keep the bloom alive. otherwise in the office here, we use special LITTLE vases, that are designed so the vase actually holds the bloom up, and lets us display flowers with a short stem, that would not make it in a vase. For a vase, you need a bush that has stiff long stems. If you want really pretty DA roses, then Heritage is awfully nice and might be ok. However, ALL DA roses are basically clustered, unlike the form of an HT (or Tea). So, buy some rose bowls, and you'll be all set.

I have been following Patrick's advice (Molineux), and have been cutting David Austin's 'Heritage' blooms while still in bud (just BEFORE they begin opening). The bloom stays as a very enjoyable bud for the first day in the vase, then opens perfectly for two more days of enjoyment as an open bloom.

By contrast, if you cut the bloom when already open, it barely lasts a day. The timing is everything. Thank you, Patrick!

An old rose that cuts really well for me for a vase is the hybrid perpetual, Vick's Caprice / Archiduchesse Elisabeth d'Autriche.

Randy

Rouge Royale works for me.

Rouge Royale is a modern rose but if you like WS 2000, you would love RR. Huge, extremely fragrant blooms that last well in a vase. Mme de Sevigne, Yolande d'Aragon, last well in a vase but the repeat isn't great on those roses. Both are very fragrant with large, petal packed blooms.

Carol

This is a great start! Thanks. I remember that picture of Grandmother's Hat and thinking what a beauty she is. I've made a list of your suggestions so I can look them up.

I know Luanne has posted several early HTs that were gorgeous. I'd like to include some of those but can't remember what they are.

Randy, I've been looking for an excuse to get Heritage. I too pay attention to what Patrick says. I would think Molineux would be a decent cut flower as well. (That rose is so strongly associated with Patrick for me that I call mine Patrick.)

Jeri - thank you, I enjoyed meeting you too. Also, thanks for posting that photo again. I have always remembered it, it's so beautiful! Grandmother's Hat is the perfect name for that rose - I'm totally smitten.
Laura

Jeri's right, I have to cut the Heritage blooms while they are in the late bud stage. To enjoy it in a vase you have to time the cutting just right, the way Patrick described.

Jeri, your story made me think of Charlie Brown's Christmas Tree.
They fixed it up to look perfect, the ideal Christmas tree, then all the needles fell off before their eyes.
Frustrated at first, they found a way to make that tree work :-)
The Peanut's gang has nothing on our Patrick.

Randy