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18 years ago

These are a couple of the more worth while results of my hybridisation effort:

Parade x Heritage, 2 year old seedling, pollinated 2006

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Parade x A Shrophsire Lad, 2 year old seedling, pollinated 2006

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Comments (8)

  • 18 years ago

    Congratulations! Those are both wonderful! How is their perfume? I would buy a rose that looks like that top one!

  • 18 years ago

    Wow, those are really nice and in their second year to boot.
    Just out of curiosity how do they stack up for disease resistance, winter hardiness, etc?
    Oh yeah, how about sending us all cuttings?
    Chuck

  • 18 years ago

    Both are fragrant, but Parade x ASL is the more fragrant of the two. Both are still small plants. Parade x Heritage has no black spot, but has a touch of powdery mildew. Parade x ASL has some black spot, and no PM. I know that Parade x Heritage is hardy, because it was the only surviving seedling of a batch that was left outside when the temperatures plummeted to -15C, followed by a prolonged freeze after that. The root ball was frozen solid! It might be too early to tell, but P x ASL seems to be the more floriferous of the two. P x H did not produce any bloom in its first year.

  • 18 years ago

    Very, very pretty! I, too, love the first one.

    I hope they turn out to be everything you hoped! Did you have a goal in mind when you chose the parents?

  • 18 years ago

    Those are really nice. I've grown some roses in the past that didn't have as nice a bloom. Any idea yet what class they will be in (miniature, Floribunda, Shrub etc.)

  • 18 years ago

    Just gorgeous! Hybridization - I bet that could become about as addicting as buying new roses. :) How long have you been doing it and do you have a site where you share tips, etc.?

    Diana

  • 18 years ago

    Stunning!! Gorgeous!!

    I just got back :) from Helpmefind - to look at Parade. If yours get as many blooms that will be great!! So I assume your roses will be a climber?

    I love the fact that your first one is SO winter hardy! I want it!! I want it!! (well both actually)

    Do you have names picked out yet?

    How about Pink Welcome and Marching Lad.

    Carol

  • 18 years ago

    "Did you have a goal in mind when you chose the parents?" greenhaven

    My favourite climber is Parade. However, it's not fragrant (now, I know some of you beg to differ, but to my olfactory receptors, there is no scent - nada). So, the primary goal is for a fragrant Parade like climber. So, I am using Parade as the seed parent, and trying out other fragrant roses as the pollen parents. It helps that Parade sets seeds well, and flowers well over a long period. So far, I have used mainly David Austins, especially those tall lanky shrubby ones, for pollen parents. I want to get the OGR flower form as well.

    "Any idea yet what class they will be in (miniature, Floribunda, Shrub etc.)" Maryl

    None at this point. My limited experience is that it takes at least 3 years to get to know the growth habit, flowering characteristics and the eventual size of blooms of seedlings. The colour and fragrance seem to declare themselves early. I don't even know if they will be garden worthy plants.

    "Hybridization - I bet that could become about as addicting as buying new roses. :) How long have you been doing it and do you have a site where you share tips, etc.?" Angelcub

    It's not addictive - yet. The one thing which prevents it from being addictive is that it does take up one's time, and I have to plan ahead. The seeds need preparation and cold stratification. The seedlings need pampering initially. The promising ones need at least 2 years of growth to declare themselves. I am a rank amateur still when it comes to hybridising - I have only been at it for 5 years. One the other hand, it can be exhilarating but it can also be equally frustrating. Like in 2006 when a hungry rat ate up half of the seeds.

    The fun is really in seeing those seedlings emerge, and waiting with bated breaths for those first blooms. It's a bit like opening presents at christmas time. And like opening presents, there are disappointments and there are exciting gems. All of the seedlings from last year's crop weren't much use - so far. But now and then, along comes something worthwhile - that's what gets the adrenaline - and endorphins - going.

    In reality, I cull 80% of the seedlings in the first year. (And I estimate I that I have germinated about 400 seedlings so far.) Most of these are singles, or are weak and disease prone (usually heavy mildew infestation). I don't spray. The majority bloom in the first season, many within 3 months of germination. But I have been careful not to throw away those that don't flower in the first year - I need to see the blooms before I decide.

    For advice, tips, techniques and inspiration, I turn to the Rose Hybridizers Association and some members of our rose society.

    If you haven't tried it, you should give it a go. There isn't much to lose - just your spare time. Most of the rest is free!