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Jacqueline Du Pre - ever seen a good one?

12 years ago

I was warned that this rose was a duffer but naturally, ignored advice. What's more, because I so wanted this rose to do well - local breeder, specially selected by Mr.Camp (and being obstinate and mutinous), I ignored the evidence of my eyes for several years. However, it sits in the same bed as my other main rubbish rose, Phillippa, and the twin horror of their naked skanky canes dictates harsh actions....unless someone can persuade me that there is hope. While I will go the extra mile for a plant sufficiently desirable or needy, I have found that some of them are just innately hopeless and no loving attention, food, water or even (gasp) spraying can overcome the essential rubbishness of such plants.....and I am beginning to suspect the JdP is such a fail. So.....is yours a shy bloomer, fragile, requiring the merest raindrop to collapse feebly, limp petalled, graceless in death, defoliated, tall and gangly with severe die-back issues (true, there are a few ethereally lovely blooms for 5 minutes in mid-June but......)?

Comments (22)

  • 12 years ago

    I've seen wonderful FLOWERS of it, but never a decent plant....anywhere, which is why it has never followed me home. I love the blooms and scent, but have never been able to get past the plant they are carried by. I agree with your predisposition to WANT to love it, being a Harkness rose. Perhaps they saw something in it I never have? Kim

  • 12 years ago

    Yes, I have seen a good one. In fact, it was gorgeous. It was in a huge pot in a local nursery, covered with leaves and flowers. This was about two years ago and I have no idea what its ultimate destiny was, but it was already a mature, large plant in that pot, and of course I have no idea how they achieved that. Perhaps living in San Diego County was the secret to its success? Who knows?

    Ingrid

  • 12 years ago

    I agree with Kim. (And mine, in the end, died.)

    Jeri

  • 12 years ago

    Mine was as miserable a specimen as I have seen. One rose I did not regret when it died.

  • 12 years ago

    In the RBG garden in Burlington Ontario, IIRC there was a good plant growing under some very large pine (?) trees. I only saw it in bloom there one spring (their spring which was probably June) and the blooms were lovely. Other times we visited that garden either it wasn't there or I just didn't notice it.

    Has anyone else seen the mini Grace Seward? A friend in NC in a zone 5-6 situation grew it against a grey out building and it had the look that I had hoped to see with JDP.

  • 12 years ago

    I wanted this one too--beautiful pictures, beautiful name--but I was lucky enough to see it in the flesh (?) before I wasted the money/time/space.

  • 12 years ago

    Camp,

    A friend in Texas had an absolutely gorgeous one, for about four years. I saw it at its peak performance, over 4'x5', thick, healthy, absolutely covered in bloom the Spring of 2009. Stunning (and I hate that word). I was back to visit this year, and it was GONE. In three years it had grown backward and failed to sprout this year. Of course they've had horrible drought, and record heat; but he irrigates and out of 100 roses, this and two others are all he's lost. It's a prima donna, evidently.

    John

  • 3 years ago

    Oh my goodness Rochella!! I planted a small one last year and it is not a lusty specimen to say the least. I hope I can get it to thrive like yours! Hope springs eternal :)

  • 3 years ago

    My skanky, runty rose is Pope John Paul II. This is its last year.


    Rochella - that fabulous picture made me fall in love with this rose...I need it!! lol :) :) Since it would be as runty as my PJPII...I'm glad I won't be able to find it here.

  • 2 years ago

    This is, without a doubt, THE funniest rose review I have ever read. I stumble upon it every year or so on Houzz and crack up every time i read it. Kudos to whomever wrote it, hilarious!

  • 2 years ago

    Yes, it seems this pathetic thing is not lusty, but skanky, runty, and miserable, failing to sprout. What a memorial to a world class cellist. Diane

  • 2 years ago

    A few weeks ago, I ran across some CDs of Jacqueline du Pre at a garage sale. I almost bought them, just because. It is impossible to explain to non-rose people why this is notable, or even memorable, and even harder to explain my giggles.

    We have currently moved on to Dmitri Hvorostovsky, a white rose from Brad Jalbert. So far, I'm reasonably impressed.

  • 2 years ago

    But Heirloom says it’s ’Easy to grow!’ 🤔😄


    Still put myself in to be notified when its available because gosh the pictures are beautiful 😁

  • 2 years ago

    Heather RR, i have had it since last summer, i love it, it is still small and yes the bush itself is lanky and wonky and it gets powdery mildew but it's fragrance is nice and i love the simplicity of it. I think it is going to be my new pruning experiment, maybe i will make a Bonasi tree out of it!!!



  • 2 years ago

    Mad Gallica - because I saw Dmitri Hvorostovsky on Palatine's website last year, I had been watching (incessantly) his youtube videos...what a voice!!! I don't really love his voice in operas...but singing in concerts, his voice is unsurpassed IMO. He died too young.


    Opine - oh, my goodness!!! That bloom is to die for!! It may be the most beautiful rose bloom I've ever seen!! I can see why you wanted it.

  • 2 years ago

    Anyone know who wrote this original review, are they still around? Lurking maybe? Anyway, it is so funny i just was curious.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    @opineonline The OP was Campanula, a gardener from the UK (real name Suzie). It's been a while, but I think she probably most recently posted in the Perennial forum. I haven't seen her post ANYwhere for a good while. She is missed.

  • 2 years ago

    @fig_insanity Z7b E TN Thank you!! I hope she comes back, this gives me such a chuckle.

  • 2 years ago

    @opineonline I inquired, and her new user name is @rosaprimula UK (Cambridge) Z8/9, and she does still post on the perennial forum. Good news!

  • 2 years ago

    @fig_insanity Z7b E TN Well let her know her review has made me laugh for years....thanks for checking, i have often wondered who wrote it, i have read it many times and crack up....

  • 2 years ago

    Hopefully, since I tagged her, she will see this post and you can thank her yourself ;)