Check out Quadra - Mad Gallica usually recommends it for very cold zones.

Also, you can do a search using the advance search features on Pickering's site. And, you can call the owner of Palatine and ask his personal recommendation. Palatine offers a number of Geschwind roses - they are supposed to be hardy but I have no idea how hardy they are and how well they repeat.

Ceterum,

Thanks, I already have Quadra and many/most of the the other hardy climbers in the ground. Have several Geschwind's on order as well.

Since this is going to be a potted rose, wintered in the garage I was looking for suggestions on a tender climber.

Since they have not a prayer of being cane hardy in my area I admit I don't know very much about them.

cathy

Zeus it seems hardy enough for Pickerings to carry it. Bright yellow often quartered blooms hardy to zone 5.

I also forgot Antique 89 is hardy to zone 4 and is a rather nice looking rose

Perhaps I should re-phrase the question.

I don't need a hardy climber. I need suggestions for a tender climber that will be grown in a pot and wintered in the garage.

I already grow or have on order pretty much any climber that will survive to zone 4 and even use larger shrubs as climber-wana-be's as many of the hardy Canadian climbers max out at 5-6 feet anyway.

I already have:
Quadra, William Baffin x2, Friesinger Morgenrote, Rosarium Uetersen, Antike 89, John Davis, Felix LeClerc, Alex MacKenzie, John Cabot, Turbo, Prairie Dawn.

Already ordered:
Blush Hip, Great Maidens Blush, Nova Zembla, Crown Princess Margareta, Spirit of Freedom, Rosenholm, Mme Isaac Pereire, Stanwell Perpetual, Geschwind's Orden, Himmelsauge, Banshee,

I am looking for suggestions for that drop dead beautiful climber that I have never been able to have because of zone issues.

To compensate for the ultimate pampering it will require just to keep it alive I would like it to be stunning.

I asked for assistance because I have not invested too much time learning about tender climbers because I have never been able to have them in my zone.

cathy

What about Westerland? I had it last year but I didn't know what to do rose that throws out long canes and dies back to the ground so when it got canker and died I didn't replace it. But the colors were wonderful and it smelled good. I'd love to try Night Owl and Berries and Cream if I had a setup like that but I don't have the energy to try to find a way to overwinter them myself.

Thanks Athenainwi,

Westerland is one to consider, especially since I don't think it will get too huge. All I need to be able to do is get it through the big garage door...lol

The "energy" to do a set up like this was born out of years of frustration related to the limits of my zone. At one point about 10 years ago I totally gave up growing roses.

but of course that didn't last...fell off the Rose wagon a few years ago and started all over...all it took was a new house with better exposure, lots of work towards microclimate issues and an attached garage, DH actually thought the garage was his treat when we bought the place....silly guy

cathy

Have you given any thought to 'Fourth of July'. It doesn't overwhelm in my climate, so I'm sure it would be well behaved for you too. I'm also sure that you could easily keep it in bounds to take indoors in winter. Having said that tho, you may not like the colours - I love it!!

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Red-- Altissimo, a jaw-dropping red and would be easy to manage as it's not huge. Ditto Dortmund, very pretty glossy foliage and showy blooms with white centers. If you like more petals, Royal Sunset-- a gorgeous blend, very fragrant with nicely formed blooms. I'd mention Handel but it is white with a deep pink edge--striking. It's a great performer if you like its looks.

Ceterum:

Your rose pictures are great! The third and fourth photo of 'Colette' were just stunning and really captured that rose's beauty. I'm putting that on my to think about list. Thanks.

Kate

Wow,

thanks for the suggestions and photo's as well....i'm off to read about all of them.

Colette is very pretty....

cathy

Kate thank you - in name of her. She would deserve a better photographer than I could manage....

Cathy, you may find several Colettes listed on Helpmefind. This one is one of Meilland's Romantica series.

My apologies - I didn't notice the stipulation that the rose should be available from Palatine or Pickering (two of my favorite vendors). So let's forget Colette though Hortico should have Colette. But in reality there is no way to know for sure if the rose is indeed available or not. So you are much better off with Palatine or Pickering.

I got Laguna from Palatine. The blooms are exquisite, very fragrant and the plant is very healthy.

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Palatine also offers another fragrant climber, namely Jasmina that is "lilac pink". But based on Kordes own fragrance rating LagunaÂs fragrance is more powerful
Parade is awesome, I don't grow it but I will give a link to Cactus Joe's photos on HMF. I am not sure, however, that a trellis would be strong enough for this huge rose.

You may want to check out Compassion - the bloom colors are very complex but pastels nonetheless. It is very healthy and the fragrance is to die for. Ginger Syllabub is also a possibility.

Finally, there are two fragrant red climbers in Pickering's catalog: Don Juan and High flyer I don't know anything about the latter but Don Juan is a favorite with many forumers.

Before I go on,
Marie is that you? Ceterum!
I recognized that top photo, and I thought to myself that this beautiful garden looks familiar.
Well if it is you, its nice to see you and have missed you very much on the other site.

Your Collette is so gorgeous
I just love pic #3 and 4
Never heard of Laguna but love the color.
Niecey

I'm new to roses but this year I purchased a don juan band. 1 tiny stick. It is now approx 6' tall and always has blooms. When all my roses defoliated from black spot this one had none. They also keep their color in all day oklahoma sun. I'm training it along a fence. I love this rose. Fragrant too! Supposedly safe to zone 5 but you could protect with some leaves or straw, if needed.

Wow some great info here, thanks so much one and all.

Colette is indeed very beautiful but alas not available to me...sigh.

Fourth of July is available from Pickering, so it makes the short list. I don't mind the looks but it doesn't make me melt either. It's not fair to the rose to be biased but the blooms remind me of a rugosa and since they are hardy are already WELL represented in the yard. Was hoping for some variety in bloom form and fragrance is important as it will sit right outside the entrance and beneath our bedroom window.

Altissimo is not available to me though Dortmund is listed at both suppliers. Dortmund is a Kordes which I have had very good success with in the past in the ground. Kordes stock (in many cases) was used for the canadian explorer & parkland series. Would rather not have a single but he makes the short list none the less.

Laguna looks very interesting, bold colour, good fragrance, lovely form. I am smitten for sure.

Compassion is an interesting rose, I have often seen it recommended as very hardy in some of my older books and some places I have done research. It has always been at the back of my mind to maybe try it in the ground some day.

Ginger Syllabub, wow, what a stunning bloom, but then I love my A. Darby & Crocus Rose so I guess it makes sense. This rose is the wrong colour for this location but..... that bloom...and really fragrant you say???...humm

Don Juan, High Flyer as well as That's Jazz were all on the short list as a deep red would work well with the brick colour. I know Don Juan seems popular here so he seemed a safe bet. High Flyer I have not heard too much about though, and there are no pics on HMF. That's Jazz was one I remember someone talking about and recommending as very good but not the volume of press given to Don Juan.

thanks so much everyone, I really do appreciate the suggestions.

cathy

Wow Marie that Colette and Laguna are gorgeous, gorgeous!

Cathy, did you see the new Kordes Aloha at Palatine's website? It is very tempting, I just don't have place for another apricot climber (or any climber) any more.
Compassion is truly a fabulous rose with wonderful fragrance; it is not very thorny and that is another advantage if a rose should be transported in an out

I cannot vouch for Ginger Syllabub's fragrance because mine died in a pot in last February as consequence of my leaving outside in a killing freeze; it died before I could see a bloom.
A further possibility in the same color range is Buff Beauty; my plant came from Pickering and it is a beautiful monster.

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Hi Niecy, yes, it's me. Thank you for your kind words. I also miss a lot of you. Laguna is a new Kordes climber, available from Palatine.

Gail, you can get both if you want them. For some mysterious reason not many vendor carries Colette but it is available both own root and grafted on Dr. Huey (garden Valley Ranch carries it grafted).

I don't really see any follow-up suggestions so far for varieties that would be cane-hardy in your Z3/4, IMO. I can think of some, but not sure if they're available in Canada.

Take a gander at the Noisette, Crepuscule.

Good luck.

OK, I've done some more research. Check-out these 2 on HelpMeFind.com. Both are technically classed as shrub roses but I've seen both used as climbers. Both are reportedly winter-hardy to Z3/4 & available from Canadian sources: 'Lillian Gibson'; 'Applejack'. Other possibilities: 'Dr.Merkeley';'Mossman', those these may be more difficult as climbers.

Neoroseman, Cathy explained several times above that she was not looking for a hardy climber but a gorgeous and fragrant rose that they will transport to the garage for over wintering. In addition she already has the hardy roses planted. I tried to recommend roses that beside being 'drop dead gorgeous' and fragrant, are in colors that are not very common in very hardy roses (apricot, yellow, peach etc.)

Morden man, I wanted to recommend Crepuscule but I dropped the idea for several reasons.
1.) Pickering used to but does not have it any more.
2) Even if that rose available own root in Canada, all I read about own root Crepuscule(s) indicated to me that it is extremely slow to get going even in warm zones. I think it would be 'unjust and cruel punishment' for a cold zoner to wait for many years till that rose starts doing what it is capable of.
4.) However, when Crepuscule matures she becomes a monster - beautiful, very clean but enormous. She covers more than half of my 12x12x 10'(10 is the height) pergola in year 4 (my C is grafted).

I was thinking of Morgengruss but the canes are stiff and that is a thorny beast - I would not like to carry it into the garage and then out. But your Morgengruss is older than mine, you can advise if my limited experience is not valid. I was also thinking of Penny Lane but maybe that is not colorful enough but thorny it is.

Oops, you're right Ceterum. I should have read more carefully but somehow I became focused on the zone issue.

No problem, Neroseman I did the same and therefore recommended Quadra first....

I am also wondering if some of the Hybrid Perpetuals would suit this situation. Most of them very tall & have huge very fragrant blooms and do repeat well in the north. This could be trained on a trellis and there are some that are not too thorny. I think Olga or some of the northern California growers could recommend a few repeat-blooming HPs.