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Starting my 2008 list

18 years ago

This is my list for 2008 all from Pickering what do you think and did I miss any?

Albas: Celestial,Pompon Blanc Parfait.

Centifolia: Fantin Latour.

Damask:Celsiana,Hebe's Lip,Leda,Mme Zoetmans,

Panachee de Lyon,Rose du Roi.

Gallicas:

Alain Blanchard,Apothecary Rose,Camaieux,Cardinal de Richelieu,Complica,La Belle Sulttane,Rosa Mundi,Tricoloure de Flandre.

Moss: Alfred de Dalmas,Comtesse de Murininais,Crested Moss,Henri Martin,Salet,Striped Moss.

Species:R.Hugonis.

Thanks

Stanc zone5

Comments (14)

  • 18 years ago

    Great list. I gow or used to grow majority of roses on your list. Some are gone due to BS, but many are still with me and I LOVE them. Hopefully in your colder climate, BS should be less of an issue.
    I don't see Rosa Mundi on your list. I personally love it much more then Tricolore de Flandre and it is much healthier then Camaieux. Another really good that is not on your list is Ispahan.
    Olga

  • 18 years ago

    That's a great list! I love Cardinal de Richelieu, and am hoping to find a nursery that sells Rosa Mundi on its own roots. Another gallica I love is Tuscany Superb, with its royally colored petals. In hopes of finding a reblooming rose that has a purply color somewhat similar to Cardinal de Richelieu, I am planning to buy Rhapsody in Blue. I tried Ebb Tide last year, but this past spring's late frost killed it.

    Connie, you are so lucky to be able to grow teas! I think my location in the PA Dutch country is just a little too cold for them.

    My adventure this year will be to try out some new (and newish) Austin roses; Gentle Hermione (could not resist this rose; my gardening grandmother's name was Hermione), and Harlow Carr. Normally, I would wait until they were available own-root, but after looking long and hard for The Mayflower on its own roots last year, I decided that life is too short to wait for something you might never find :-D

    Enjoy your new roses!

    Lois in PA

  • 18 years ago

    I'm putting together a wishlist for the spring, and, so far this is what I've come up with:

    1. MME. LEGRAS DE ST. GERMAIN
    2. JUBILEE CELEBRATION
    3. CAMAIEUX
    4. SOUVENIR du DR. JAMAIN
    5. HAPPY CHILD
    6. PLAISANTERIE
    7. AUGUSTE GERVAIS
    8. TRICOLORE de FLANDRE
    9. PEGASUS

    1. EASLEA'S GOLDEN RAMBLER

    robert

  • 18 years ago

    Robert,
    I tried several times to order Plaisanterie from Hortico. Every time it was not available when it was shipment time. Hopefully you will have better luck.
    I really love Camaieux (more then Tricolore de Flandre)
    Olga

  • 18 years ago

    R. glauca would be a nice backdrop for your OGR's!

  • 18 years ago

    I ordered my roses from Vintage this weekend:

    Ellen Willmont
    Mrs. Oakley Fisher
    Vesuvius
    Smoky

    From Roses Unlimited I haven't ordered yet but will this week:

    City of York
    Summer Wine
    Dublin Bay

  • 18 years ago

    Stan, what a treat to see your list. Makes me sigh, as many are roses that just would not bloom down here-- not enough of a winter chill for them. Henri Martin, Comtesse de Murinais, oh my! I've always wanted to grow Celsiana and Complicata-- oh, I had a lot of OGR's way back when but never got around to those two. Enjoy!

  • 18 years ago

    Oh, me too. Here's my order from Vintage. These are all new for me. I've never grown any of them before. Anyone with experience growing them in z5?

    Illusion
    Raubritter
    Duchess of Portland
    Cécile Brunner, Cli.
    (Constance Spry aka)
    AUS(William Shakespeare aka)
    Mme. Hardy
    Ferdinand Pichard

  • 18 years ago

    Love, love, love Cardinal de Richelieu! It looks better (to me) if pegged, mine just kind of weeps over, and those grape popsicle-colored blooms are stunning in May/June!

    Now, Tricolore de Flandre. Sigh. My "problem child". Grew like crazy the first year. Good. Grew like crazy this spring and I was afraid that I wouldn't get blooms, but I eventually did. They were small and vegetative (large green pips). Sad. I need to find a place for it in the ground (it is still potted) I think it will be happier there. I haven't given up on it.

    I still think about the blooms from Hebe's Lip that Mad Gallica entered into the Mid-Hudson Show in 2006, just beautiful!

  • 18 years ago

    Robert, I got Pegasus last year at Heirloom's Sale. I also got Pompom de Bourgogne, and didn't really know what it looked like. Couldn't find much else about it either on the internet. I got Heirloom's new catalog yesterday and it was in it with a photo. (Happy to see they are offering a lot more Old Roses this year!) It an adorable little bush with pompom purply-pink blooms. Heirloom says it is one of their first roses to bloom too.

    I will be getting:
    Mystic Beauty
    Souvenir de St. Anne
    Archduke Charles
    Quatre Saisons Blanc Mousseux
    Tuscany Superb
    Dragon's Blood
    That's all for now, but I'm sure the list will grow!

  • 18 years ago

    Robert - I have had Pegasus for 4 years or so and it is not a rose that I would recommend. The blooms are smallish, the fragrance is not memorable and it is a BS mess. Mine is from DA and grafted. Hopefully yours will do better.
    Lois - I live outside of Philly and grow a few teas. I go by what Olga grows and keep my fingers crossed. I have Souvenir Pierre de Notting, Clementina Carbonieri and Georgetown Tea. All are own roots and a little slow to take off but they have all survived for the past few winters. I am guessing it is a little colder in your neck of the woods.
    Good luck!

  • 18 years ago

    pacnwgrdngirl, I guess I won't be getting the Heirloom catalog this year. When I started out I ordered all my roses from them. As they moved away from OGRs, I found other vendors I was quite happy with, though I did buy some own root Austins from them as recently as a couple of years ago. But I didn't order last year and I'm not sure about the year before, so I guess I'm off the list.

    How many OGRs would you say they are offering now?

    Rosefolly

  • 18 years ago

    hi rosefolly ~

    I counted 45 OGR roses in their new catalog. They also have a supplemental list which takes up a whole page with a ton of roses on it and it includes all roses including OGR's too.

    I tend to shop there because my mom lives really close and it is just soooo easy to drop in and pick them up. We NEVER miss their annual sale in August, spectacular! Also great fun to wander their garden when in bloom. I think they can be kind of expensive, but when I'm there in person, Oregon has no sales tax and there's no shipping charges, they are right there in front of me......begging to be taken home. :o)

    Go to their website and request a free catalog. Uh-oh, just visited their site for the catalog page and now they are $5.00. Well, they used to be free.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Heirloom Roses Catalog Page

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