Zone 10 shade. Is that dappled shade? Shade for only part of the day (if so, which part)? How many hours of shade? I suspect that few of us here can grasp what shade in zone 10, southwestern FL means for the rose gardener . . . Once I began gardening in the coastal Carolinas, I found that the increased intensity of light & reflected light opened new possibilities for roses. Given your circumstance, it seems to me that you're in a trial-and-error mode -- try a couple of Teas or Tea-Noisettes in your shady areas and see how they perform.

One thing you might do is look at the petallage.
Roses with fewer petals might open blooms most easily.

Mme. Antoine Rebe, which mildews here (but might not, in FL) might be worth a try.
But I've already found out that increasing shade makes Lady Hillingdon miserably unhappy.

Jeri

Here is a Florida seller who lists shade tolerant roses (3 hours of sun minimum). I plan on buying from them very soon (thanks sherryocala for their name).
There are some pretty ones like Zepherine Drouhin, Buff Beauty, Alchymist and more.

No, I don't have any shade in my yard to speak of lol :-). I'm getting the ones that like sun.

Denise

Here is a link that might be useful: angel gardens roses

I have a tea rose that grows under a tall tree, and is surrounded by huge (10'x10' x 8' high) bushes. Sort of grows in the middle of a thicket (no, I didn't plant it there - it was planted decades ago, and the garden is slightly overgrown!). It is Anna Olivier. It blooms happily most of the year - it is blooming as we speak.

I have another rose, a tea noisette, called Madame Alfred Carriere, that grows in another (overgrown) part of our garden - sort of in the middle of a very shady forest. MAC grew up from the forest floor to the top of an old plum tree, and it was probably 2-3 years before she got any foliage up where the sun was. Has been blooming ever since.

Jackie

Avalon, I had Arcadia Louisiana Tea growing in total shade during the Daylight Savings months for a year and a half. It bloomed some, grew a little and didn't get disease. It has lovely champagne (buff) 100-petal flowers and didn't ball much if at all, didn't get thrips. I recently moved her out into the sun since her location really was taking a toll on her. I'm not suggesting you put her in dead shade, but she'd probably do OK in light or dappled shade. (I planted her in March while the sun was low. What a shock when April came.)

I have Mme Antoine Mari. She's on the north side of the house about 6' from the building. This time of year she's mostly in shade except a little bit in the morning and right now is blooming. During DST, she's in sun.

Cornelia is in a lot of shade, because she's right up against the house on the west side. Right now it's total shade because a tree is to the south between her and the low sun. In summer the sun is up high enough that she might get 3 hours of sun - and maybe not. She's been in the ground 6 months and seems to like her odd spot.

Parade doesn't seem to mind less sun. She's in a spot that gets midday sun - about 3-4 hours. She's recommended as being shade tolerant.

Comtesse du Cayla did NOT grow in too much shade (almost no sun). I moved her a few weeks ago, and she's got tons of new growth already.

I have 2 Louis Philippes. One in full total sun; one in a lot of bright shade during DST. They both bloom fine. The shaded one is thinner but still 5+ feet tall but is also younger. Plus she's got oak tree suckers coming up between her legs!

Sherry

I have the teas Cels Multiflora, Mme. Charles and Spice in a spot that at this time of the year get very little sun but all are still blooming. In the summer they get three to four hours of morning sun. The china Mutabilis also does quite well in this situation although I'm sure it would prefer more sun. Our Lady of Guadalupe, Aunt Margy's Rose and Mme. Cornelissen also bloom well with the same amount of sun.

Ingrid

We have Mme Joseph Schartz under some trees, nearly total shade,in the Sacramento cemetery, and it blooms a bit throughout the season. I'm always amazed at how well it does, although another one in a sunnier spot certainly does do better. I find that its foliage is less prone to powdery mildew than Duchesse de Brabant,too.
Anita

Avalon, I have only a few teas, and only one years experience with those, but I have found that both Papa Gontier and Archduc Joseph (Mons Tiller) scorch badly in just a couple of hours of full sun. At the moment they are in pots.
When I plant them out, I will find somewhere for them in full shade.
Francis Dubreuil, which is often sold as a tea rose, also scorches badly in full sun. That will also be making it's home in shade.
Daisy

Daisy, I think full shade would be a mistake for those Teas. You could either try morning sun on the east side of your house or a sheltered spot at the edge of some trees where they're protected from the scorching afternoon sun. You've probably already found out there's a huge difference between morning southern sun and afternoon southern sun - even though it's still pretty dang hot standing in morning sun. When we moved to Florida in September, 1978, I thought I had stepped into an oven. I'm thinking you did, too.

Sherry

Daisy, I believe my climate is very similar to yours and I've had to accept the fact that I could not keep Clementina Carbonieri, General Tartas and Monsieur Tillier because for me they also scorched in a few hours of morning sun. However, when I moved another tea, General Gallieni, somewhat under a tree, where it still received dappled sun for part of the day, it never bloomed again. Now I just concentrate on roses that are foolproof for me, either in full sun or morning sun. Unfortunately that means doing without some roses I might want to have, but there are many others that will work.

Ingrid

I grow a handful of teas, and they're all on the west side of the house where they get shade most of the day.

MONSIEUR TILLIER does very well and repeats quite well.
MAMON COCHET also does well, and often reaches way over 6ft without getting lanky. Doesn't bloom as often as MT tho.
LADY HILLINGDON grows very lanky and sprawls all over the place; blooms maybe twice a season.
DUCHESSE DE BRABANT does pretty decently. She blooms a few times a yr.
WILLIAM R SMITH just started to grow some decent canes this yr, and only had one lovely bloom just a week or so ago.
ROSETTE DELIZY loves it there. Blooms a lot and stays a pretty decent size, but is sparse of leaves.
RUBENS got trandplanted in this bed last yr, so he put alot of energy into trying to climb the wall of the house, up into the clematis. I think he bloomed twice this season, maybe will do better next yr. But he's happier there than where he was against the back northside fence where it's deeper shade.
MME DRIOUT is a big mess. I hadn't realized she was a climber... Big mistake! She is like a big octopus sprawling and flailing all over the place. I guess I will have to move her, as she's at the front of the bed and hangs out in the walkway! Only one bloom this season.
I also palnted CLEMENTINA CARBONIERI in that bed about 3yrs ago, but she is struggling to stay alive. In fact I thought she had died, but I see a couple of leaves popping up again. She obviously was waaaay too small when I got her from Vintage. Shoulda left her in a pot for another yr or so.
Oops, just remebered I also planted a tiny baby RAINBOW and it hasn't done much yet either. Not sure why.
The other two I have in there are climbers, E VAYRAT HERMANOS and SVR DE MME LEONIE VIENNOT. He's on the north end and has sprawled out away from the house and is waaay over onto the metal arbor I have right nearby. Hasn't ever bloomed yet, but he was a teeny tiny baby just a couple yrs ago. I expect to see some good blooms next spring I hope! And she is at the other end of the house, and I had wanted her to climb up the chimney there, but she wants to hang out into the middle of the bed like a giant octopus. Also no blooms yet.
I also have a few other roses that are not teas in this bed. BLUEBERRY HILL, MRS OAKLEY FISHER, MORDEN BLUSH, LEONIE LAMESCH, MARQUISE ORSOLA SPINOLA, and DORNROSCHEN. They all do well, and all bloom at least two good flushes, with the exception of DORNROSCHEN, which never has bloomed more than once even when we lived at the other place and it got full sun.

Anyway, hope that helps some. As I said it's mostly shade there. Altho occasionally for a short time the sun might reach thru the pines trees certain times of the yr. It's certainly not a deep shade tho. The soil is crap tho, and I have amended parts of the bed, but even in the bad parts they do pretty well.

Sherry and Ingrid thank-you for your advice. I will try to find somewhere for Papa Gontier, Archduc Joseph and Francis Dubriel where they only get a couple of hours of sun in the mornings. If they don't do well there, I will have to say goodbye to them.
My garden is too small to have any rose that isn't completely happy.
I am getting very hard-hearted in my old age!
Daisy

Yes, Daisy, please keep us posted about there performance. It will be useful to the rest of us who grow these dark teas in strong sun and heat. I hope they do well.

Sherry

Daisy,
The Bermuda mystery rose, Spice, that Ingrid mentioned also does well for me in a few hours of morning sun on my north side. Mons Tillier is also in morning sun only and does well.

Cramoisi Superieur and Mutabalis, as well as Perle d'Or, all share the same morning sun only spot (north east exposure) and all bloom well.

Lady Hillingdon shared this spot for a couple of years and DID NOT appreciate it.

Good luck, Gean

Thanks to all who took the time to respond. I really depend on advice from people in this forum, as there are few full-time gardening residents and even fewer rose gardeners where I live. Everything I do in my garden now is trial and error, as the conditions here are much different than those in the area of Florida where I spent most of my gardening years. I added the suggested roses to my "Shade Wish List", which is getting longer as my open sunny spots are getting smaller...

I think that my Lady Hillingdon is in too much shade - thanks for the warning, I would hate to lose her.

Just by chance, I planted Mons.Tillier in partial shade and he's doing great!

For those of you with too much of a good thing (sun), you may want to try Wm. R. Smith and Alliance Franco-Russse. Both of these are being blasted by full sub-tropical sun in my garden, and seem to love it. They are HEAVILY mulched, but otherwise unprotected from the sun all day long.

thanks again,
Avalon