I told you in your thread that I've got seedlings. Just three of them so far. I had a couple others, but the cold got them just before winter turned into summer. I've got Korean Goatsbeard too, and some red spider lilies I'm going to dig for you when the seeds on these are ripe. It should be some time in late July. That's when I collected seeds from my wintersown red ones last year. I really do hope these are the right color. I'd hate to have more red ones and have yet another woman disappointed with me. ;)