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Long-stemmed cutting rose ...

18 years ago

Hi everyone! I just got started with roses this year, and i dare say, i'm hooked. I have one fairly small bed, an empty bed, that i was going to use for herbs. But now i'd like to grow roses there that are SPECIFICALLY reserved for cutting. The kind of long-stemmed roses that cost 10 dollars a bundle at the supermarket. Does anyone have any recommendations on what rose or roses might be best suited for this use?

I tend to like yellow, red, of course white ... any ideas?

Comments (14)

  • 18 years ago

    Reds:

    Papa Meilland
    Taboo aka Barkarole
    Red Intuition
    Rouge Royale (if you spray)
    Royal William (Fragrant Charm or Duftzauber)

    In addition, there are a few new red cutting roses (for example, Grande Amore) offered by Palatine roses, I suggest you check them out.

    Yellows:

    Valencia
    Caramel Antike
    Elina

    Whites (are the most difficult)

    Tineke - florist rose, thrips do not bother it and almost never destroyed by botrytis blight

    Crystalline is the usual rose suggested for cutting but it is a very frustrating rose to grow in humid/rainy climate - very botrytis prone and thrips love it. When it is good it is perfect but not many times I could cut a 'perfect' bloom

    Ice girl - I have no experience with this one yet; I ordered it because Aprille in northern California said that it had been great for her. It is a cut flower for home gardens, so I am hoping that it will be good.

    Again, Palatine offers a few white roses that are bred for cutting, so check them out. It worth checking out this company - they deliver the biggest & healthiest bare roots I have ever received.

  • 18 years ago

    (You probably know that the long-stemmed roses you buy at the market are grown inside greenhouses, rather than outdoors. Some greenhouse varieties do well in a garden and some do not.)

    I would suggest you try St. Patrick (yellow/green, very long-lasting blooms) Veteran's Honor (long-lasting red) and Gemini (white with coral-blushed edges, generous bloomer).

    All three are garden roses that produce good cutting roses for bouquets and have no disease problems in my coastal garden.

    You can look up any of the recommendations on HelpMeFind.com for descriptions and a "photos" tab with lots of pictures.

    Here is a link that might be useful: HelpMeFind rose search

  • 18 years ago

    In case you like peach-apricot colored roses Osiana is a great florist rose that is available for home gardeners.

    I forgot to mention Black Baccara - again it is a florist rose but performs quite well in the garden but not when wet weather is predominant. Another dark red florist/cutting rose is Black Magic; it does not like my climate at all but I read glowing reports from the west coast and even from rose growers gardening in cold northern climate.

  • 18 years ago

    One consideration for your quest is to remember that roses develope huge beautiful buds, like those sold at the supermarket, when you have a combination of cool nights and warm days.

    Considering that I live in SoFlo be aware that my suggestions are based on my experiences in my climate:

    Reds:
    Big Ben
    Veteran's Honor

    Yellow:
    Gold Medal

    Orange/Blend:
    Perfect Moment
    Dolly Parton
    Calico (cool blend)

    White (-ish):
    Moonstone
    Elina
    Louise Estes
    Princess De Monaco
    Lynn Anderson

    Yellow:
    St. Patrick

    Pink:
    Gentel Giant
    Belinda's Dream

    Purple:
    Neptune
    Hot Princess

    Good luck and happy journy through your growing process as you learn the world of roses. Everything you need to learn can be found on this forum!

    Adrian.

  • 18 years ago

    You want plants in the "Hybrid Tea" or "Grandiflora" class of roses. In catalogs or online they may have the initials HT or GR (or Gr) next to the variety name.

    All of the above named are excellent. I like Hot Princess, Gemini, Touch of Class, Neptune, Tiffany (wonderful fragrance) and Moonstone. If I was to grow another red HT, it would be Veteran's Honor.

    Palatine Roses is an excellent vendor.

  • 18 years ago

    Christian Dior is a good long stemmed red without fragrance.

  • 18 years ago

    My favorite reds are Black Magic and Ingrid Bergman. Black Magic lasts a little longer but Ingrid has a scent. I did get one perfect bloom off Taboo this year but it's been slow to get going and most of the blooms weren't very well formed. I used Moondance as a white cut rose this year. Even though it doesn't last as long as a real cut rose should it bloomed so often that I could afford to cut a new one every few days. And it smells really good too. My favorite cut rose this year is Marilyn Monroe which is more of a cream color. It lasts a long time and has a nice scent but you should be aware it has nasty thorns.

    I'm ordering a bunch more cut roses from Palatine. They have a really good selection and will state expected vase life. They're roses are really large and healthy too.

  • 18 years ago

    Oh WOW! Thank you, everyone .. you've given me LOTS to research here. I'm absolutely certain i'll find at least one that thrives in the Great Pacific Northwest ... it looks like Veteran's Honor is mentioned a few times, so i think i'll research that one first ...

    And thank you for the link, Petaloid ... this all gives me just the launching point i need ...

    Cheers!

  • 18 years ago

    Long stemmed and lasts--Black Magic, Veteran's Honor, Moonstone, or Cajun Moon

    Hot Princess is great in the spring and especially fall. In the summer the color isn't as vibrant or deep and the petal count seems lower, but the stems are still long.

  • 18 years ago

    Excellent! So if you had to choose between Black Magic and Veteran's Honor, which would you select?

    (I assume they would look odd together, yes?)

  • 18 years ago

    Hi estreya :

    I grow Mister Lincoln here in the Northwest. It does beautifully! It has amazing fragrance and makes the most beautiful, long lasting bouquets that make your whole house smell great.

    Adrienne

  • 18 years ago

    Each has its own attributes. Veteran's Honor probably is the gold standard for reds and is one of the top 3 exhibition roses. But if you like a darker, velvety red then Black Magic is the one. BM has long stems and lasts as long, maybe 1 day longer, than VH. I think I get more blooms on my BM than VH. During the heat of the summer, the necks on my VH were weak. I love them both! But if I had to choose, today it would be Veteran's Honor.

  • 18 years ago

    I don't have many HT's in my garden but I really like The MacCartney Rose------It has been very healthy in my no-spray garden--very fragrant and a lovely in the vase
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    this rose has been so healthy and it was a bagged rose from Home Depot a couple of years ago.

    Florence

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